You don't give a shit about S300s? Because you based your argument on them before.
Desert Storm wasn't a walkover? Are you fucking retarded? It was a complete overmatch and decisive victory on such a landslide that there's few comparisons in history. We voluntarily stopped destroying Iraqi military convoys out of humanitarian concern, because it was that unfair of a fight. The invasion of Iraq was a complete walkover as well.
You seriously think the Iranian military would provide more resistance in a conventional war, just because they have some airplanes and tanks from the 70s and 80s which, regardless of being unable to upgrade to modern standards, they've been able to keep barely functional due to black market deals for parts?
Do you ever look at what you write and think, "I'm fucking dumb as hell," or does the need to be contrarian all the time just override that thought from the get go?
"Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll."- Last words of Todd Beamer
Desert Storm coalition official casualties of killed or wounded ; 1,518
OIF coalition + contractors official casualties of killed or wounded; 39,145
I don’t know who pissed in your Wheaties this morning, but age ain’t nuthin but a number. We have B-52s predating the Kennedy administration still flying today. Guess what , Kim Jun Jackass still shuts his yap when we rotate them to Guam. Because build date won’t mean shit when his bunker gets crushed by high explosive.
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
The B-52s are continually updated. They don't fly with 70's equipment and without structural enhancements.
Flesh that out for me.
And when Russia and it's proxies take them? At what point are we irrelevant to the world and up for grabs?
How's the Cold War play out without that prosperity? How's it look if the USSR/Warsaw Pact had it instead? Would the world be a better place? Deal with the consequences of your hypothetical for us.Originally Posted by 0ddl0t
"Popular myth" irrelevant to conversation. You said if we stayed home people would leave us alone. We stayed home. You then used our "economic war" as the reason we were attacked. Should we have continued to supply the imperial Japanese war machine to avoid conflict with Japan? Would that have not made us enemies of Korea and China? That's my question to you, not what's the popular myth and in light of your supposed belief in self-determination.Originally Posted by 0ddl0t
[QUOTE0ddl0t]Attempting to capture "the holy land" is a bit more than a border war in my estimation[/QUOTE]
You're free to look at a map and see how deep an incursion "the holy land" was into Islamic held territories.
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Sorta around sometimes for some of your shitty mod needs.
I am a nobody and know nothing. I would think that there are two levels of accomplishment we could shoot for. The first is to make the leadership of Iran think that taking more action against the US (including continued development of their nuclear ambitions) is too expensive. The second is to weaken them enough to cause their many enemies to destroy them completely.
It is all bridge painting. If we check them, we will have to stay aggressive to remind them, and they will work hard to forget. If we destroy them, bigger assholes will take their place.
Ignore Alien Orders
We are (inadvertently, accidentally, and collaterally) killing innocent women and children now. War isn't clean and leveling a few cities to achieve lasting peace is less bad than having hundreds of thousands unnecessarily die each year in perpetuity.
But getting the f out and not having to make these decisions is best (or least bad) of all options.
Are they existing tribes that have been at war with each other for thousands of years despite western attempts to draw boundaries? Or are they true outsiders?
Let them try. Maybe they'll bring peace to the region, maybe they'll destroy their own empire in the attempt...
If we weren't expanding our influence around the globe, we wouldn't have had a cold war.How's the Cold War play out without that prosperity? How's it look if the USSR/Warsaw Pact had it instead? Would the world be a better place? Deal with the consequences of your hypothetical for us.
By "stay home" I also mean remain neutral. Embargoing a country is not "staying home.""Popular myth" irrelevant to conversation. You said if we stayed home people would leave us alone. We stayed home.
Choosing not to sell supplies to Japan while they were conquering others was reasonable.You then used our "economic war" as the reason we were attacked. Should we have continued to supply the imperial Japanese war machine to avoid conflict with Japan? Would that have not made us enemies of Korea and China? That's my question to you, not what's the popular myth and in light of your supposed belief in self-determination.
Choosing not to supply belligerents in the middle east would also be reasonable. And if one of them then attacked us, retaliation would be justified.
Remaining in conflict which ostensibly began because a couple planes were hijacked long after everyone involved has been killed just because our continued involvement keeps creating new enemies is insane. But that's our current policy. We didn't break the middle east. Its been broken. We have no responsibility to fix it. Let's get out and let them try and sort things out.
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