Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis: 2nd Amendment does not apply to Saudi Arabians

[JRB]

I'm getting really fucking sick of people pushing this 'less guns' button in their thinking, when the ACTUAL problem was defenseless and disarmed sworn military service members.
If we can trust them in a uniform we damn sure should be able to trust them with a gun 24/7/365.
Presently, yes, there are issues with that because culturally our military has forgotten how to be perpetually armed and responsible, because we've allowed them to.

That's why these fuckheads target recruiting offices and military bases instead of police stations.

Easier for a politician to just write more fish-wrap stupid laws than to demand our military actually allow their members to be armed.

[HCM]

I'm getting really fucking sick of people pushing this 'less guns' button in their thinking, when the ACTUAL problem was defenseless and disarmed sworn military service members.
If we can trust them in a uniform we damn sure should be able to trust them with a gun 24/7/365.
Presently, yes, there are issues with that because culturally our military has forgotten how to be perpetually armed and responsible, because we've allowed them to.

That's why these fuckheads target recruiting offices and military bases instead of police stations.

Easier for a politician to just write more fish-wrap stupid laws than to demand our military actually allow their members to be armed.

Maybe stop, look at what is actually at issue here and think. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Arming .MIL vs CONUS green on blue attacks is a separate issue. It’s not an either/or issue.

The American Service members from 49 U.S. states in the flight program at NAS Pensacola can’t legally buy a handgun at an FFL there because they aren’t FL residents and they are on TDY rather than PCS orders to FL yet this foreign fuck can buy a handgun at an FFL because he bought a $20 hunting license ?

[jellydonut]

As a foreigner: eat shit and die, tyrant.

[Hambo]

If you don't live in Florida and are ignorant of Florida politics,you need to STFU. Our previous RINO governor, now senator, Rick Scott, is a POS that would sell us down the river in a heartbeat. Republican congressman Brian Mast has advocated for an AWB. DeSantis' Democratic opponent ran on a promise of an AWB.

DeSantis is far from perfect, but he's put the brakes on an AWB being a ballot issue by having the FL SC review the language. He's the most pro-2A we've had in quite a while.

[Cory]

Here I was thinking that the Bill of Rights simply listed our rights, which were endowed by our creator to all men by virtue of just existing.

-Cory

[joshs]

The American Service members from 49 U.S. states in the flight program at NAS Pensacola can’t legally buy a handgun at an FFL there because they aren’t FL residents and they are on TDY rather than PCS orders to FL yet this foreign fuck can buy a handgun at an FFL because he bought a $20 hunting license ?

How does 922(b)(3) and the definition of "state of residence" in 27 C.F.R. S 478.11 apply differently to him than a U.S. person (citizens and LPRs)? A hunting license gets him out of the prohibition in 922(g)(5), but it doesn't help him establish a state of residence. He had to present a government issued identification document (or combination of them) that confirmed his identity and listed a Florida address. Any U.S. person doing the same would have been permitted to buy a handgun in Florida (assuming they weren't otherwise prohibited.

[joshs]

Here I was thinking that the Bill of Rights simply listed our rights, which were endowed by our creator to all men by virtue of just existing.

-Cory

That's true, but in order to get the protection of our laws in a U.S. court, a person has to fall within the scope of the legal right rather than the natural one. Otherwise, how would we limit civil rights for those currently serving a period of incarceration?

This was one of the interesting legal questions when some argued that the 2A should be incorporated via the 14A's PorI clause instead of the due process clause. The PorI clause applies to "citizens" while the due process clause applies to any "persons". However, our courts have often drawn a distinction between U.S. persons, citizens and lawful permanent residents, and non-U.S. persons in the application of certain civil rights.

[HCM]

As a foreigner: eat shit and die, tyrant.

Or you could mind your own fucking business.

[Yung]

Seeing as the perpetrator was here for military aviation training, I'm under the impression that even though most of it might be in a classroom or a simulator he'd have to be in control of an actual aircraft at some point.

[HCM]

How does 922(b)(3) and the definition of "state of residence" in 27 C.F.R. S 478.11 apply differently to him than a U.S. person (citizens and LPRs)? A hunting license gets him out of the prohibition in 922(g)(5), but it doesn't help him establish a state of residence. He had to present a government issued identification document (or combination of them) that confirmed his identity and listed a Florida address. Any U.S. person doing the same would have been permitted to buy a handgun in Florida (assuming they weren't otherwise prohibited.

Foreign military students can live off base, though many don’t because they can’t afford it.

922(g)(5) exists for a reason. I can understand an exception to it to allow foreign hunter to possess their own temporarily imported firearms or use a firearm borrowed from a guide, but why should 922(y) allow non immigrant aliens exception from 922(g)(5) to purchase firearms since they are, by definition, transients here ?