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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-media-924944/

    Matt Taibbi is not a Trump fan. But he cuts through the bullshit rather well in this article.
    3/15/2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-media-924944/

    Matt Taibbi is not a Trump fan. But he cuts through the bullshit rather well in this article.
    When the fucking Rolling Stone is raising the bullshit flag...
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    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...71171314987008

    Follow that link and you will see video of Horowitz himself saying that the people involved in this were hand picked by Andrew McCabe...the same Andrew McCabe who was fired for lying to investigators.

    And Horowitz himself, in that clip, agrees that people need to be fired and that a cultural change is necessary at the FBI.

    I repeat: This does not indicate that the players in this are good guys.

    The people responsible for this are trying to hold up the whole institution as cover. That is bullshit. We can call out the abuses perpetrated by the poisonous actors within the organization without damaging the organization.

    In fact, if we actually want to protect the institution of the FBI and the mission it is supposed to serve there is no alternative to exposing bad acts and holding those responsible accountable for them.
    3/15/2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...71171314987008

    Follow that link and you will see video of Horowitz himself saying that the people involved in this were hand picked by Andrew McCabe...the same Andrew McCabe who was fired for lying to investigators.

    And Horowitz himself, in that clip, agrees that people need to be fired and that a cultural change is necessary at the FBI.

    I repeat: This does not indicate that the players in this are good guys.

    The people responsible for this are trying to hold up the whole institution as cover. That is bullshit. We can call out the abuses perpetrated by the poisonous actors within the organization without damaging the organization.

    In fact, if we actually want to protect the institution of the FBI and the mission it is supposed to serve there is no alternative to exposing bad acts and holding those responsible accountable for them.
    Agree, wholeheartedly. Malfeasance is unacceptable and must be ferreted out no matter where it is found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    Russians hacking the DNC is nonsense.

    That allegation is based on an assessment made by Crowdstrike. The DNC servers were never examined by any outside forensic exerts. The FBI did not examine them. The OSC did not examine them. Nobody...I repeat...NOBODY...who was not on the DNC payroll EVER looked at those servers.

    Which means that nobody who was not on the DNC payroll ever performed a proper forensic analysis.

    The assessment that the Russians hacked the DNC server was simply accepted by the FBI after they were handed a REDACTED report from Crowdstrike. A report that had been redacted by DNC lawyers:

    https://www.scribd.com/document/4134...strike-Reports

    I'm not an expert in a lot of things, but I do have actual real life experience in the discovery, investigation, and remediation of hostile penetration of information systems. Nothing surrounding the handling of the alleged DNC hack is even remotely close to SOP.

    So maybe start to rethink how much of that "dossier" we now know conclusively to be a partisan document full of bullshit actually "proved" to be "true."
    Then you must be familiar with the cloud hosting the DNC used and that 140 servers were decommissioned and 180 PCs were wiped in the remediation.

    Cool. If you think the Russian hack is a hoax then . . . cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Then you must be familiar with the cloud hosting the DNC used and that 140 servers were decommissioned and 180 PCs were wiped in the remediation.

    Cool. If you think the Russian hack is a hoax then . . . cool.
    I think it's pretty clear the Ruskies hacked the DNC. The fed knows when and how they did it and Roger Stone is going to jail.

    At some point somebody will write a book with all the gory details. I doubt Trump will be in office when it's published tho. Sometimes it's best for the public not to know this stuff. Lots of skeletons in those closets.
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    The pearl clutching about Russian hacking is laughable. It's what they do. And that it was detected likely means that they wanted it to be. Meanwhile, the Chinese are likely using the DNC servers to process take out orders for the the Saudis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPAKevin View Post
    The pearl clutching about Russian hacking is laughable. It's what they do. And that it was detected likely means that they wanted it to be. Meanwhile, the Chinese are likely using the DNC servers to process take out orders for the the Saudis.
    Somewhere a Democrat was triggered and swooned from high blood pressure. Talk about intersectionality...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPAKevin View Post
    The pearl clutching about Russian hacking is laughable. It's what they do. And that it was detected likely means that they wanted it to be. Meanwhile, the Chinese are likely using the DNC servers to process take out orders for the the Saudis.
    Even pentagon servers can be hacked. The fed pays people outside of gov't to find the vulnerabilities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TCinVA View Post
    ...This shit is poison and the damage it is doing to the institution to be led by people willing to engage in this sort of thing is, by their report, immense...
    Where is a real whistle blower when you need him/her.
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