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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost River View Post
    Rim Rock Bullets of Montana makes a 255 grain hard cast SWC for .45 ACPs. While I have used a bunch of their bullets, I have not used that particular one. That said, a 255 SWC would be a very solid choice if one had no access to JHPs, could not afford them, or whatever the circumstances.
    I use their .45 colt one over 9 grains of unique in my blackhawk/m92. Hammers deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    LBT 230 gr LFN. Veral Smith refers to it as the best "soft target" 45 ACP design:
    How did I miss those at https://www.montanabulletworks.com/p...-230gr-lfn-pb/?

    I'm going to get some next time I order from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    How did I miss those at https://www.montanabulletworks.com/p...-230gr-lfn-pb/?

    I'm going to get some next time I order from them.
    I soooo want to take them deer hunting, but 45 ACP isn't a legal caliber in my state. I suppose I could buy a 45 LC revolver and load some to 45 ACP +P-ish velocities. This design does feed in stock 1911s for me, and everything else I've tried them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    1. Tolerance. My nerves and arthritis let me shoot 9mm regularly. USPSA Minor isn't winning me anything but a Major Flinch wouldn't either and be a lot less fun. Major or full power .45 hurts and will kick me into a flinch in short order. I load .45s way down to keep from retiring the guns. My carry and house guns are mostly 9mm.

    2. Recommendations. A lot of people consider .38 Wadcutter to be suitable for self defense.

    3. So what about .45 Midrange? Would I be reasonably well armed with a 185 gr at 775 fps? That's about all the fun I can stand for a reasonable practice with the Commander.
    Jim;

    I'm sorry to hear of your arthritis. It will get us all, one day.

    As others have mentioned, Federal Gold Medal Match .45 ACP SWC is what you're looking for. https://www.luckygunner.com/45-acp-1...edal-50-rounds

    I've used it some, for Bullseye shooting, and it shoots great. A 185 gr SWC travelling at 775 fps must surely equal or surpass a 148 gr .38 spl wadcutter at 700 fps. I've also tried the ASYM .45 National Match, which is the same combination but with a JHP bullet. I don't know if it will expand at 775 fps, but you could contact Nosler or Precision Delta and ask.

    You can easily load practice ammo with off-the-shelf 185 gr cast bullets and 3.8 gr to 4.1 gr of Bullseye.

    Good luck!

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    Wouldn't that load pretty much be an analog of .455 Webley? The Webley round had a good reputation for putting guys down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paherne View Post
    Wouldn't that load pretty much be an analog of .455 Webley? The Webley round had a good reputation for putting guys down.
    The Fiocchi .455 factory load is a 265 grain lead bullet at 660 fps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    LBT 230 gr LFN. Veral Smith refers to it as the best "soft target" 45 ACP design:
    Attachment 45626
    What OAL are those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    They're not 230gr, but they look interesting https://missouribullet.com/details.p...0&secondary=13
    Way back in the day, Jeff Cooper advocated the similar 215 Markell SWC in .45 ACP over a very manly charge of Unique. I'm sure he was on to something there.
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    SAECOs bowling pin bullet has a really large meplat as well. I had that before my LBT mould but it didn't feed in one of my 1911s well at all, so I sold it off and concentrated on the LBT mould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    What OAL are those?
    I load to roughly 1.25. LBTs are a "weight forward" design, and my guns feed them really well.

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