I like my American .22 Magnum, but I've not been particularly demanding of it.Originally Posted by Nephrology
I like my American .22 Magnum, but I've not been particularly demanding of it.
Sorta around sometimes for some of your shitty mod needs.
The Tikka T1 is a substantially nicer gun than my CZ.
If I was buying today, I would get a T1 and not look back.
Amazingly accurate and smooth.
Compelling. Very compelling.
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I've actually been thinking about selling a couple CZs and buying a Tikka in HMR. Will hold out a few years for them to make the .22LR in 16.5" stainless.
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With the expansive aftermarket for the 10/22 I think it’s tough to beat as an option. There are still parts of the country where you can buy the magazines for them in hardware stores.
I built my own using all aftermarket parts. Kidd trigger, Tactical Solutions receiver, Magpul stock... I even went with Gemtech’s Mist 22 barrel that is half bbl and half suppressor. It’s as loud as a stapler. Of course that would mean a tax stamp and big brother’s permission to cross state lines so maybe a regular bbl is what y’all would want. But they are fun, reliable and plenty accurate.
Say whaaaaaat?
https://ruger.com/products/1022Carbi...ets/31115.htmlI was going to mention this because she doesn't sound like she has that much experience?
As much as we all love our 10/22s (got two of them), there might be a better learning curve to be had by the thing NOT being automatically hot again as soon as you reset the trigger. Working a bolt to chamber the next round might be better to reinforce the understanding of the chamber being second from the magazine?
And WTH, you could get an American now, and the magazines would be compatible. And holy hell, for $200 each maybe get both:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ruge...22lr-8301.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ruge...een-31115.html
And the stock on the American "Includes two interchangeable standard length of pull stock modules that provide comb height options for scope or iron sight use. By simply removing the rear sling swivel stud, stock modules can be changed in seconds. Compact stock modules are available at ShopRuger.com" so if you wanted to try options it is easy. And I think that 10/22 comes with the same interchangeable module, but only comes with one. But the options are $20:
http://shopruger.com/Rugerreg-Stock-...uctinfo/90432/
You could end up with peep sights, or a simple red dot, on one and a scope on the other one.
Better buy the bigger safe...
If I didn't already have a TD model I'd be seriously interested in this one.
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Never mind. Looks like suppressors don’t count. It’s only for weapons that fall under the NFA.
https://www.atf.gov/file/11361/download
The 10/22 plus nice optic is a sensible amount of money. The CZ plus a nice optic becomes expensive. CZ 22's with iron sights have a different stock than those that are slick and without iron sights and intended to be scoped. The iron sighted rifles have scopes with a lower comb. Thus the shooter using a scope is contacting the stock with chin and not cheek--depending on scope dimensions and ring height. Using low scope rings is not always the answer because the bolt handle very well might hit the scope's rear objective. Regardless you still have a stock with low comb.
My suggestion is that if you select a CZ, buy the model without iron sights and with the higher comb. Select a smaller scope, use CZ rings, and live happily thereafter. You will find that using CZ rings is easiest since choices are limited. You will find that if you are not careful, you will end up with a scope and ring combination that won't work. Unless things have changed, CZ is the only source of factory rings for these rifles. Magazines are very expensive and have low round count.
The CZ is a purist and advanced shooter type rifle. Rings and magazines are expensive. They, the rifle, and a nice scope will hit you close to $1000. I would not gift one to any person who is a new shooter, does not know the difference, and who might lose interest. If your friend shows promise and interest as time passes, then she will be a candidate for a premium rifle. I think that the model intended to be scoped comes with factory rings.
I own and shoot CZ rifles. Reread the above comment about bolt handles hitting scope objective bells. Buy the Ruger 10/22.
CZ factory rings are pretty high.
I am in possession of a set of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Scope-Rings...e/264268435836
They look very nice. I will be installing them on my 512 with the 2-7x28 Leupold this weekend.
There is also the J&P adapter route: Delrin blocks that put Weaver rail chunks on the CZ rail. They work great with Burris Signature Zee rings, but I wouldn't use them with any other rings. I have measured a set and the top and bottom are out of parallel by a couple thousandths. The Signature Zee rings will soak it up no problem, but it could be an issue with others. J&P CS told me they are only meant to be used with Sig Zee rings; go figure.
Last edited by OlongJohnson; 11-26-2019 at 11:56 PM.
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