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    The Wilderness has the best webbing hands down of any webbing belt I’ve tried. They have the perfect combination of vertical stiffness and lateral flexibility that none of the garage/evening makers even seem to understand, instead choosing nor being force to choose) ridiculously stiff material in both directions to the point that the enthusiast market has actually convinced themselves that this obscene stiffness is a good thing.

    I suspect that as a company they’ve been around so long that they may be too “boomer” for the contrarian millennials, as well as for the folks that think they need something special rather than tried and true.

    I’m glad to see them offering other buckle options. I’ve always wished that they’d make a cobra buckle version, or something similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    So...I’m normally a big fan of Wilderness Tac, but this one kind of rubs me the wrong way.

    The Graith/Mastermind Specialist comes out and basically makes almost all other gun belts obsolete in the process.

    So, Wilderness now just makes it own Specialist copy. I’ll put this out here: my last two 5-stitch CSM Wilderness belts weren’t as stiff new as my 4-year old daily worn Specialist is right now.

    Save your pennies, buy a Specialist from Mastermind.

    Four years I’ve only bought one new belt in that time, a spare Specialist.
    I own 4 of the Specialists and use one daily. Let's be real here, they made nothing obsolete. It's a nylon belt with a metal or plastic buckle. I agree the Specialist is the one to buy, but it's nothing revolutionary.

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    Wilderness LowPro EDC Belt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirolynmonbro View Post
    So the specialist is stiffer than the 5 stitch? I thought I've always read the specialist not being very stiff at all. [emoji848]. I might need to grab a specialist... I always thought it was less stiff
    You are correct. In my world the specialist isn’t anywhere near a 5 stitch wilderness. Not even close.

    I like this new buckle and would swap from the old giant plastic Frequent Flyer Rings.

    And while this is a nice offering, I am entirely converted to the VDevGroup miningajord or however that damn thing is spelled belt. Super rigid where stuff clamps, floppy elsewhere. Low profile. Seems crazy but it works absolutely great for AIWB. 8 hours driving with G19 AIWB yesterday. No sweat.
    Last edited by Doc_Glock; 11-24-2019 at 11:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I suspect that as a company they’ve been around so long that they may be too “boomer” for the contrarian millennials
    Quote Originally Posted by Up1911Fan View Post
    Let's be real here, they made nothing obsolete. It's a nylon belt with a metal or plastic buckle.
    Yeah, being critical of the company that pretty much launched the whole idea of a nylon gun belt in 1981 because they have started offering a version that uses a common off the shelf buckle seems like a bit of a stretch to this boomer.

    ETA: Just went ahead of ordered one.
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    I just looked at it.

    It's just a triglide instead of a buckle. Same thing we've been using on slings and other web gear forever.

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    I have one of the first ones. In fact, they made mine while I was waiting in the shop.

    I have only run it this weekend since I got it Friday, but it may be my favorite. Only time will tell, but it pulls flatter than any other belt for one, and the quality of it is typical Wilderness bombproof-ness. They pay more attention to the little things since they have actually been making belts longer than a lot of later makers have been alive. For example, they spent a good deal of time and thought on the x-box stitching and how to get it as close to the buckle as possible since that has a direct impact on how flat the the buckle lays. I have a special training session lined up with a couple of black belt buddies on Friday to really run it through it's paces, but I am extremely happy with it so far.

    it is funny to me how people in the gun community are so quick to dismiss gear that they have not seen with their own eyes and hands and make assumptions about it. The Wilderness was the first to make these kind of belts, and have spent decades figuring things out. they also have a history of making changes to the belts when the changes make sense and meet a decided need, not just to copy. Saying this is a copy of anything else without wearing it is a but much.

    Oh, and the guy who actually was most responsible for this belt being produced? He daily carries AIWB and a fixed bladed knife carried forward of the hips, and has done so for a very long time, and has actively solicited advice from other people who have done so as well. This is not some quick cash in.
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    Have been using my Volund Gearworks G-Hook belt for awhile now.

    I have been looking at other options and the Graith Specialist has caught my eye as well as this one.

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    I've been a heavy user of Wilderness belts (Instructor 1.75", 1.5", Frequent Flyer, dual metal ring 1.25"-all except my 1990-vintage original Instructor are 5-Stitch-since 1990. All of mine are still in service, although most of them have gone though Wilderness' repair/renovation program for velcro replacement.

    All of their products are exceptionally well thought out and made, and they stand behind their gear.

    My thoughts are going with 5-Stitch and a supplementary suspender set-up for load support, rather than an inordinately stiff belt per se.

    I'm interested in this new rig, and will probably give it a whirl.

    Best, Jon
    Last edited by JonInWA; 11-25-2019 at 01:58 PM.

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    I have both a 3-stitch and 5-stitch FF belt. I wonder for AIWB which would be the best option? I currently use the first gen Graith Specialist. My thinking is a 3-stitch would be sufficient for AIWB and the 5-stitch would be best for the very occasional OWB strong-side carry. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry T View Post
    I have both a 3-stitch and 5-stitch FF belt. I wonder for AIWB which would be the best option? I currently use the first gen Graith Specialist. My thinking is a 3-stitch would be sufficient for AIWB and the 5-stitch would be best for the very occasional OWB strong-side carry. Thoughts?
    Since you have both, the easiest way to tell what works the best "for you" is by trying each with the firearms you carry AIWB to see which you prefer.

    For OWB, I'd be surprised if the 5-stitch wouldn't provide superior results.
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