But do we really need to see it? The feds have a multi million dollar budget just to test ammo. They are always looking for the best ammo and have a vested interest since their own personnel will carry whatever they discover as the best. Why would they choose something that isn’t the ideal option? Some days I think it would be easier to teach theoretical physics to a squirrel than get the shooters like these to understand terminal effects with regard to handgun ammo.
And for the shooters who don’t trust the feds because “conspiracy” or other nonsense... look at our SOF units. They can use whatever they want and they actually shoot lots of people. They are carrying 9mm. These threads are like an overweight middle school gym teacher telling an Olympic gold medalist they aren’t exercising correctly.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
9mm's fine. I have one and reload 9mm. If I didn't like it I wouldn't spend that much time with it. Stop with the drama queen shit.
The HK45 came out of the JCP. Specs can be found here.
https://www.tactical-life.com/firear...ombat-pistols/
That was back in 2004 when the military thought they could buy 600,000 pistols and get what they actually wanted, 45 ACP. If they didn't want it they would have never wrote the spec.
Military purchased the cheapest pistol they could. That was a 9mm. Ammo costs matter. Same reason they won't move away from 5.56. Not the best but cheap.
Last edited by Borderland; 11-21-2019 at 08:38 PM.
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
So what? The military is so resistant to change its almost a diagnosable disease. You’re talking about “big Army.” Stuck in tradition “because we’ve always done it that way.” They are not the people I’d go to for advice on anything handgun related. They still don’t do preventative maintenance on small arms. They just shoot them until something breaks. Then replace the broken part with a used part off another weapon that might be at the end of it’s service life. The people in DoD who actually use handguns for killing are in the special operations community. And they carry 9mm.
Your use of the JCP was to justify 45 caliber pistols is like saying the military should not replace their Jet Rangers (OH-58) because traffic reporters use them successfully every morning.
OK, if you say so.The people in DoD who actually use handguns for killing are in the special operations community. And they carry 9mm.
In the P-F basket of deplorables.