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    Get the JMCK AIWB 2.5 with wide hole spacing and PTD loops like pictured in @Clusterfrack post.
    For OWB get a Raven Perun.
    Get a Mastermind Specialist Pro belt.

    Be happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by TicTacticalTimmy View Post
    One option you may consider if you are tied to pocket carry is CCW Breakaways. I have a pair of their khakis and they are pretty excellent as far as concealment. Your full size PX4 will conceal about as well as a G43 will in normal pants, and the draw will be faster. They would be my choice if I wanted to pack serious firepower and had to sit down all day, and a 3 o clock holster was not comfortable for whatever reason. They are pricy but no more so than a pair of quality pants plus a quality holster. I recoomend you order a size bigger than your normal pant size, I am a 33 and the size 32 is WAY too small.
    Wow! I kinda like those. So those eliminate the need for a separate pocket holster, meaning that the pocket itself is the holster?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Suggs View Post
    Get the JMCK AIWB 2.5 with wide hole spacing and PTD loops like pictured in @Clusterfrack post.
    For OWB get a Raven Perun.
    Get a Mastermind Specialist Pro belt.

    Be happy
    As I await an answer from someone else who recommended appendix carry, I’d live to hear your response towards appendix for someone with a bit of a belly, who sits all day since you recommended it too?

    But aside from not making a holster for any pistol I own, what makes this raven Perun holster any better than my Bare arms kydex?

    That belt- is that for any mode of carry, or just appendix?


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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    As I await an answer from someone else who recommended appendix carry, I’d live to hear your response towards appendix for someone with a bit of a belly, who sits all day since you recommended it too?

    But aside from not making a holster for any pistol I own, what makes this raven Perun holster any better than my Bare arms kydex?

    That belt- is that for any mode of carry, or just appendix?


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    I do not have a belly so no experience with that aspect. I do know a guy with a belly that uses that holster with no problem.

    The Perun will conceal an owb pistol better than most holsters and works very well.

    The.Mastermind belt is good for all modes of carry. Watch the video SouthNarc posted about it.

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    My buddy who is a large dude, has had difficulty with AIWB for guns larger than a G43. He's now carrying his P-07 OWB in a JMCK OWB 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Suggs View Post
    I do not have a belly so no experience with that aspect. I do know a guy with a belly that uses that holster with no problem.
    Oh ok. What does he do? Is he sitting for most of his day? What belt does he use? Does he have the same issue I have with having to have a belt fairly tight just to hold everything up? In other words, what’s his story to carry strong side OWB with no problem?

    The Perun will conceal an owb pistol better than most holsters and works very well.
    Hmm. Well, they don’t make a holster for my XDE or anything else I own so I guess I’ll just have to leave that one at that.

    The.Mastermind belt is good for all modes of carry. Watch the video SouthNarc posted about it.
    I did watch that but I guess I missed the part were he talked about any other mode of carry other than AIWB.


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    I don't think the Mastermind is stiff enough for OWB. My Graith Specialist definitely isn't. I like it a lot for AIWB, but use one of my stiffer belts when I go OWB.

    E.g. https://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/31CF-31CF.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I don't think the Mastermind is stiff enough for OWB. My Graith Specialist definitely isn't. I like it a lot for AIWB, but use one of my stiffer belts when I go OWB.

    E.g. https://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/31CF-31CF.html
    My Mastermind handles a G26 or 43x well owb.
    A heavy pistol -maybe not.

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    "...is there really a belt out there for my physique and for my situation that is going to have just the right amount of stiffness, not too much or not too little?"


    IIRC you are 6 footish and 270, 42/44 sized belt.

    My first shooting mentor (DRS/RIP) was 6 footish. When I met him in 1989, he was 250ish. when his diabetes and other stuff kicked up, he went up to 365. When he had gastro surgery, he came down to 200ish and then when his kidneys slowly went, he got down to 165ish which he had not been since he finished Ranger School in the 70's. He was a PITA. I loved him like an uncle. But he could always shoot, any platform, at any weight, and particularly ran a pump shotgun like a house of fire.

    He trained with and carried everything (pistolwise) from 5 inch 1911s, to Hi-Powers, to 3rd Gen S&W pistols, to 4 inch XDs, to a Glock 19 (finally!) mostly in Tier One leather makers of the day to include Kramer, Sparks, Andy Artoonian and Null, mostly OWB.

    His go to belt over his whole shooting life (Multiple Gunsite classes, Multiple Thunder Ranch classes, Multiple Rangemaster classes, Range Officer at IPSC National Matches, Early IDPA matches etc. was a WILDERNESS 5 STITCH BELT. And sometimes, particularly in his bigger days, he used a set of Perry Suspenders too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perry-Suspend...50733302&psc=1

    For the love of all that is holy, buy a MF 5 STITCH WILDERNESS BELT AND START DOING THE WORK.


    PS-To parphrase Clint Smith- carrying a gun is not always going to be comfortable, but it should be comforting. As sure as the day is long, if you are do-dicking around with off body carry, cargo pant carry, truck magnet carry and back again, it is just a matter of time before you forget the gun in the cab of your truck, or get it taken away from you because somebody sees it and /or sees you moving it around when it should be in a quality OWB holster whose belt loops i.e. 1.5 inches are threaded by a 1.5 inch 5 STITCH WILDERNESS BELT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corneileous View Post
    As I await an answer from someone else who recommended appendix carry, I’d live to hear your response towards appendix for someone with a bit of a belly, who sits all day since you recommended it too?
    Though not directed to me, I'm 5'8" now with a 32" waist. Before becoming active in the Garmin thread, I was still only 5'8" but I had about a 38" waist. At 38" I didn't have any problem carrying AIWB, to include the occasional long car ride. That's definitely not the same as driving a truck for a living, but I never had any problems going 6-8 hours at a time. I've done a couple of 12-14 hour drives, and I don't remember AIWB being terribly uncomfortable. (Some of those hours were even in Oklahoma!) Some holsters do work better than others though, and what worked for me might not for you. I like JMCK, Dark Star Gear, and Dale Fricke Holsters. I also have one KSG holster and one Garret holster that have worked well for me. Carrying at 3:00-4:00 IWB is extremely uncomfortable to me.


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