I think the Kurds we're talking about in Syria are the PYD/YPG Communist group that pretty much hate America and hung with us for their own goals and the equipment they could get. The folks that were really kinda boned were the Iraqi area groups IIRC.
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I fought with the Kurds in Iraq 2003 and 2005. They were the only ones we could really trust. I hate to see this. It will be hard for future soldiers to tell another army we are training, "we will be there for you, just look how we are with the Kurds". Shitty deal, i hope they can get out soon, the Turks are ASSHOLES. They have always despised how we have protected the Kurds. Fuck Turkey.
The YPG and Syrian Kurds are Socialist types, but they always worked with us. In the land of ISIS and assholes, they kurds were there to help us when we needed it.
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Pretty much, and GHWB should have known better.Originally Posted by Grey
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
Yeah, YPG are straight old school Marxist-Communists. Anitfa members from Europe and America have gone over and fought with them. If any of them fought with us earlier it wasn’t out of any love of the west, but rather “the enemy of my enemy”.
Bingo!!
PYD/YPG and the US were united by a common enemy, ISIS. Nothing more, nothing less. Trump didn't drag our asses to Syria, the Obama administration did. And Libya. All kinds of foreign mis-adventures.
Is this so much worse than when Obama pulled us out of Iraq, when the country was still in turmoil?
So we leave our 50 troops scattered on the border, and God forbid a couple get killed while Turkey opens up the "safe zone"?
Great, now we would have a NATO member VS NATO member situation.
Kind of hard to support an insurgent group that is considered a "terrorist group" by another NATO member. Might be something in the charter against that.
Pretty hilarious to see all the Doves trying to become Hawks today, trying to condemn the pullout.
When it comes to the ME, it's always a great time to leave.
"And for a regular dude I’m maybe okay...but what I learned is if there’s a door, I’m going out it not in it"-Duke
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No, you are not in the minority. Your son, my son, no ones son should die or come home maimed in a war anywhere in that part of the country or anywhere else in the world for that matter. No American should be put at risk unless it serves our national interest. We are not or should not be the worlds policeman. Enough of these little wars that really serve no purpose and is not in our national interest. I'm glad PRESIDENT Trump did this. Enough already. How long should we have kept our guys there? 18 years? Korea, Viet Nam, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, when does it stop?
It's an important note that the troops aren't coming home. They're not even leaving Syria, they're just being pulled back from the Turkish/Kurdish border so that we don't end up coming under fire when the Turks move in to ethnically cleanse...I mean pacify the Kurds.
We've had a military presence in Philippines for 120 years.
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I'm currently sitting in Okinawa... The Marine Corps has never left since the landings....just saying.....
The military power that has abandoned its ally in the Syrian war: The United States of America
The military power that has not abandoned its ally in the Syrian war: The Russian Federation
If you don't believe that's going to resonate through the region, if not beyond, I suspect that you are gravely mistaken.
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
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