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Thread: Compact and Lightweight, Scout-like, .308 Bolt Gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    I've had an itch for a 6.8 bolt gun for years.

    I love me some Howa action. If I ever lose my mind and do the 6mm Rem AI project I can't quite get out of my head, it will probably be a Howage.

    I also like that Remington sells unbarreled actions. They aren't too expensive. Makes a decent starting point for a Remage.

    But if ARP does a run of drop-in Savage barrels, they will likely be about half the price, maybe less, of a typical custom barrel. And it will have rifling and chamber that's state-of-the-art from a (if not the) 6.8 specialist. That and a PTG bolt head should be the easy button. Drop them in a Savage Lightweight Hunter .223 with walnut stock that's listed at 5.5 lb from the factory. Stock can be lightened further. Wouldn't be the cheapest build, but probably the simplest way to get it done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wise_A View Post
    I love my Savage, but between the sheer number of stocks/chassis I can't use, and the bolt lift, there are a lot of reasons I wish it was a Remington.

    I think my next gun--really an experiment in learning to assemble a rifle with a prefit barrel--I think I'd be inclined to either start with a trued-up Remington action ($420-$500ish), or just buy a /r/gundeals gun and part it out. If I was spending real money, I would just skip it all and go to a Defiance Tenacity or other push-feed custom action, some of which share the 700's footprint. Custom actions look expensive, but there's a lot of value in the big price tag, presuming you actually want all that stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyDuty View Post
    I know what you mean. I personally keep looking at Tikkas for a near off the shelf rifle.
    Finally got detailed and noted out the build for weight, tech details, etc. Decided a Tikka in .260 Rem or 6.5CM is simply a better option than the Savage project as I contemplate it in pretty much every regard, except for barrel length and threading. One can make do...

    Tikka, Warne rings, Leupold glass and go make meat continues to be the KISS formula.
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    My take on compact handy bolt action rifle. Tikka T3 Lite 30-06. About 42" lenght and weight is 7,7lbs with Leupold Freedom 1,5-4 scope, empty 5 round magazine and 3hgr driven sling. Recoil pad is Limbsaver. I could shave little weight and lenght by shortening barrel and stock, using lighter sling and scope rings but I kind of like it as is. Good and accurate shooter distances up to 150 meters. Recoil is also quite manageable.

    https://youtu.be/mWP35pFNMF8

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    After a lot of fits and starts to select a pseudo-scout rifle for myself, I finally landed on a used Browning A-Bolt Micro Hunter with a 3-9x Zeiss scope mounted normally. As a large guy, the shorter length of pull is the only a minor annoyance, but one easily mitigated with a slip on recoil pad.

    The 20’’ barrel works well with the .308 rounds I prefer for hunting, and it is a pleasure to carry in the woods or on the Ranger.

    It doesn’t meet Col. Cooper’s Scout criteria for most features, but it hits the main ones for me: weight, length, and effectiveness at range.

    Not a common choice, but it has put a lot of meat on out table.
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    OP update. I got embroiled in being too busy with life and fell off the shooting wagon, it downright shameful to admit. This whole corona, not the Mexican beer, business also put my traveling plans through CA this year on hold. If you remember, I think I mentioned it, I wanted said rifle as a good all around rifle to have even while traveling through restrictive states, like CA. I was going to do a few epic Overlanding 4x4 trips through the West, including CA. I'll have to put this off this year most likely.

    I've finally managed to catch up with this thread. I once again thank all of you that have contributed and kept the conversation going.

    I have to say I'm still conflicted as to the direction I'll go. It may be like Rob wrote…maybe we are all now waiting for a Model 70 LW with synthetic stock and threaded barrel! Part of me wants that, and part of me says just go with a Tika or a Steyr scout and be done with it. The hypothetical perfect rifle is the enemy of the good enough rifle that I could have now. But, because my need is not as acute, I'll probably temporize for now and look at what keeps popping up throughout this year and plan to purchase something this Christmas.

    In the meanwhile I'm adventuring around North Arizona where I don’t have to worry about any lame restrictions, happy days.




    In the meantime I finally got my AR10 put together which is the first gun related thing I've managed to do in a while.

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    ^^^^^^^ Copious amounts of WIN going on right there. ^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraitR View Post
    ^^^^^^^ Copious amounts of WIN going on right there. ^^^^^^^
    Thanks buddy, I really appreciate that.

    BTW my son (he’s 7) dreams about being an operator for CAG, and always wants to bring his Airsoft M4 Commando out on our adventures but I don’t feel right about him spraying plastic airsoft BB’s, even the biodegradable ones, out in the wilderness. So Red Rider BB gun it is....at least he’s got his restrictive State rifle already squared away

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    Quote Originally Posted by DacoRoman View Post
    Thanks buddy, I really appreciate that.

    BTW my son (he’s 7) dreams about being an operator for CAG, and always wants to bring his Airsoft M4 Commando out on our adventures but I don’t feel right about him spraying plastic airsoft BB’s, even the biodegradable ones, out in the wilderness. So Red Rider BB gun it is....at least he’s got his restrictive State rifle already squared away
    I'm curious which brand of RTT are you using there? How warm is it in winter, since one picture show it being used in the snow?

    I've thought about either RTT or Teardrop trailer, though I won't being doing any real off roading more just want something thats more cable than fullsize RV rig and we've got a SUV already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dov View Post
    I'm curious which brand of RTT are you using there? How warm is it in winter, since one picture show it being used in the snow?

    I've thought about either RTT or Teardrop trailer, though I won't being doing any real off roading more just want something thats more cable than fullsize RV rig and we've got a SUV already.
    It’s a free spirit adventure manual 55”. We have the regular tent fabric version. They do make a “tri layer” version that has much thicker fabric and if you’d be in cold weather more often than not, I’d consider adding the tri-layer option if you go with any of their tents.

    But even in our regular thin skin model we’ve camped when overnight temperatures have hit the low to mid 20’s, so could have been worse, but still pretty chilly. What makes it very comfortable is the fact that I added an additional 2” memory foam mattress (for a total of about 4.5” of floor insulation) and have a 0 degree two person sleeping bag with a flannel liner for the winter time. Compared to a ground tent experience, especially in the winter with snow etc., it’s as if I’m staying at the Ritz. It’s downright awesome. I use a much thinner bag for the spring, and only a thin blanket or just a bedsheet for the summer.

    But again if you go much colder than the mid 20’s I’d get the tri-layer, or a similar type tent with more insulation...or yeah a teardrop trailer of some sort especially since you won’t be off-roading.

    I do quite a bit of off roading, and if you do end up wanting an off-road set up, the RTT set up works really well as it will allow you the most off-roading ability. Case in point, I am thinking of getting a simple relatively light weight off road trailer to put my tent on and pack it with my supplies; but this winter I went up some pretty gnarly snowy/muddy trails which I don’t think I would have attempted with even a “ light weight” trailer.

    I hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions about it. Good luck on your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DacoRoman View Post
    OP update.
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    In the meanwhile I'm adventuring around North Arizona where I don’t have to worry about any lame restrictions, happy days.

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/Qn6JNqH.jpg[img]
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/PtwmUeT.jpg[img]

    In the meantime I finally got my AR10 put together which is the first gun related thing I've managed to do in a while.
    Those are some awesome pics, reminds me of mine when he was a boy.

    Now he is all grown up, runs a BCM/LMT setup, and marches with his buddies on the capitol when they threaten his gun rights.

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    A slightly different take on things: just for fun, I built a Remington 783 into a mag fed, pretty lightweight precision gun that ended up shooting to a mean radius of 0.31 MOA at 525 yards.

    Whole gun, including the optic, the bottom metal and the magazine, was under a thousand hockey pesos. In the US this whole package would probably be like six hundred bucks.

    I mention this mainly to say: you practically can't get this wrong. You take a rifle and shoot it, it's going to do the job.

    Not very interesting to the Steyr Scout buyers among us, but for people who want to feel scouty and spend plinky,

    https://calibremag.ca/remington-783-...or-under-1000/

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