Colt Halts Production of Long Guns for the Retail Market

[Malamute]

People like Doom Porn.
Some like the fantasy where the world ends in 12 years.
Others like the one where they get sold out to Democrats.

Both are about as likely as most Porn scenarios.

Like the one where a plumber shows up right away when called,...or that day,...or that week?

Back to Colt, I hope they can keep it together. Id like to see them bring out more revolvers. (Python)

[rob_s]

so it seems like predictably the breakdown is:

1. people that already hated Colt that see this as justification of their position
2. people that previously liked Colt that prematurely changed their position to hate based on internet rumor but are unwilling to change a publicly-stated opinion despite current information
3. people that loved Colt, that aren't really going to change their minds anyway

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I said this in a low traffic Colt thread in Rifles, so I will say it here also.

Some media is portraying this as an antigun statement by Colt. They are having polls to ask if you support Colt! Thus, a business decision is framed as a political statement.

One thing that catches my eye is the discontinuity in the description of the guns.

Colt uses the silly Modern Sporting Rifle to describe the semi version. As I have ranted before this is a stupid attempt to make the guns appear nice and not as weapons of war. Since they are nice, please, please don't ban Uncle Fudd's toy. It negates the principles behind the RKBA which isn't about hunting and your lard ass in the deer blind.

Then, they discuss how they will sell weapons to the military and law - obviously as instruments lethal force for the protection of civilians by the law and as weapons of war by the military.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I think they'd better stop depicting a stallion in their logo / trademark as it unfairly depicts equines as murderous, gun loving animals.

Horse tried to kill me when I was a kid. I'll go for murderous! It might have been accidental as the horse was fighting with another horse and I was a side effect. Not that cars haven't tried to take me out a few times.

Modern Sporting Animal - I think NOT!

[Totem Polar]

I think they'd better stop depicting a stallion in their logo / trademark as it unfairly depicts equines as murderous, gun loving animals.

That sort of thinking is rampant these days.

so it seems like predictably the breakdown is:

1. people that already hated Colt that see this as justification of their position
2. people that previously liked Colt that prematurely changed their position to hate based on internet rumor but are unwilling to change a publicly-stated opinion despite current information
3. people that loved Colt, that aren't really going to change their minds anyway
4. people that loved Colt, buy their products, but still remember a previous history of Colt stepping on their own horse dick

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Colt bought into the smart gun movement. Didn't work out, did it? Then there was the 2000. Wonder gun! Saw a show on Japanese horse meat sashimi restaurants. Works for me. My kid said that horse meat preparations were pretty tasty when she was in Switzerland. Stayed in a house with a Sig 550 for the militia - the owner said it was a pain in the butt to have around. Just blathering here.

[rob_s]

More panic mongering to drive sales.

Which has me thinking the OG RSR dipwad probably wasn't stupid (or, if he is, this isn't actually a symptom of such) but instead was probably just looking to incite panic buying.

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[Mike C]

so it seems like predictably the breakdown is:

1. people that already hated Colt that see this as justification of their position
2. people that previously liked Colt that prematurely changed their position to hate based on internet rumor but are unwilling to change a publicly-stated opinion despite current information
3. people that loved Colt, that aren't really going to change their minds anyway

You can't really keyhole all of us man. Though I am sure a lot of people fall into those categories. I like Colt's products. I didn't hate them. I don't hate them now but I do think they're dicks and won't buy any more of their products for dropping support for parts as they have. I don't think that's premature. When I called to just buy an upper or barrel to something I own from them because it's OOS I was literally told to pound sand as we aren't making anymore anytime soon as tactfully as possible. Given Colt's history I think I have a right to be mad when I can't source parts for more than $5K worth of their products I have just sitting around. One of which is mostly proprietary, (at least the parts I want). I have collectively spent well into the $10K mark on their products over the years and when you start spending into double digits and can't get support for your products I think there is reason to be a little pissed. I imagine you'd feel this way if a car mfg stopped supporting parts for a car they recently released that you bought thinking they'd warranty it and support you with parts if you had the need.

ETA: I hope there is a panic over them I'll sell mine and buy some BCM guns.

[rob_s]

You can't really keyhole all of us man. Though I am sure a lot of people fall into those categories. I like Colt's products. I didn't hate them. I don't hate them now but I do think they're dicks and won't buy any more of their products for dropping support for parts as they have. I don't think that's premature. When I called to just buy an upper or barrel to something I own from them because it's OOS I was literally told to pound sand as we aren't making anymore anytime soon as tactfully as possible. Given Colt's history I think I have a right to be mad when I can't source parts for more than $5K worth of their products I have just sitting around. One of which is mostly proprietary, (at least the parts I want). I have collectively spent well into the $10K mark on their products over the years and when you start spending into double digits and can't get support for your products I think there is reason to be a little pissed. I imagine you'd feel this way if a car mfg stopped supporting parts for a car they recently released that you bought thinking they'd warranty it and support you with parts if you had the need.

ETA: I hope there is a panic over them I'll sell mine and buy some BCM guns.

The beauty of the fact that Colt hasn't gone in for all these "better than milspec" designs is that you can literally get spare parts for their ARs from dozens of vendors. Some of them even produce parts virtually as good as (or, according to many on the internet, better than) the OEM you're trying to replace.

Sorry, but I don't see "hey, we're going to stop making and selling these things for the commercial market for a bit to focus on other things" as quite on par with "no soup for you!"

[Mike C]

The beauty of the fact that Colt hasn't gone in for all these "better than milspec" designs is that you can literally get spare parts for their ARs from dozens of vendors. Some of them even produce parts virtually as good as (or, according to many on the internet, better than) the OEM you're trying to replace.

Sorry, but I don't see "hey, we're going to stop making and selling these things for the commercial market for a bit to focus on other things" as quite on par with "no soup for you!"

I called them and tried to get a barrel or upper in .308 for the CM6.5 I have. Barrel is proprietary. I was told I can't get one unless its through grey market and was told they will not be making any no date when. Yeah you can see it however you want but I'm sitting around with something with proprietary parts I can get a replacement barrel for which is bad for something in 6.5CM. Pretty much, "no soup for you." I think you have some fair points but I'll just have to disagree with you since I'm the one who talked to them and have stuff sitting around I paid for with blood to have and can't get parts for.