You’re mixing platforms. Lone Wolf, Zev, Shadow Systems all make reframed Glocks. Not wholly new handguns that use Glock magazines.
Yes, but this goes to show there are no 'licensing fees' to use Glock mags in non-glock pistols.
Except the quality difference.
Right, but the 'P10G' or other Glock compatible pistol would just ship with 1x Glock style magazine, counting on the user to either already have a ready supply of Glock mags, or to just purchase more of whatever brand they prefer.
I would take that bet. I’m not sure if you’ve ever sold guns or worked in purchasing for a gunstore - but the cheaper product outsells the more expensive one. Most buyers aren’t you or me. They are looking for cheap things. Hell most buyers don’t even buy extra spare magazines.
But are these buyers of cheap things really buying the CZ P10 or Hudson H9 or Walther PPQ etc Glock alternatives?I suspect most of the sales for these non-Glock, non cheap (ie Ruger/Canik etc) pistols are being sold to the multiple gun owner.
And the P320 seems to be selling fine. And will continue to do so, due to the MHS Contract.
Right, but prior to winning the MHS contract, the P320 was not taking over the world. And winning the MHS contract is a one time event - its not a strategy that any other pistol can replicate. Leaving them to find alternate methods of drawing market share - of which Glock compatibility would be the simplest and most successful differentiator.
Glock continues to hold market share because of contracts, acceptable quality, and historical inertia. No one is going to “out Glock” Glock. Appeasing the miniscule market of gun owners who own lots of Glock magazines is a losing proposition financially.
I agree, no one is going to out Glock Glock. But that actually lends further support for other pistol companies to embrace the Glock mag compatibility - any pistol that takes Glock mags will be on the short list for a pistol purchase by existing Glock owners. And Glock mag compatibility will cut the legs from under the other Glock competitors out there that take proprietary mags. So while the 'P10G' would not replace the Glock 19 in popularity, it would absolutely dominate the P10C, PPQ, VP9, APX, etc and become a solid competitor as the '#2' pistol.
There are some other engineering issues with using the Glock magazine in a 1911-sized/shaped pistol. The angle of the column means the trigger bow would be slanted as opposed to straight. This will change the geometry interaction with the sear affecting trigger pull. As a result, it changes feed angle and barrel lockup.
Several folks have tried, but no one has made it work.
Has anyone tried to make a Glock mag 1911?
And really guys - new guns come with two or three mags. You can shoot a few matches with just three mags. Buy something new and try it, if you like it - then buy some more mags. If not, trade it off for another Glock. It’s okay to have different kinds of magazines.
The thing is, high capacity pistol mags will not be around forever; I would count ourselves very lucky if they are available 5 years from now. Which means that if I like a pistol, and plan to have it in the future, I'm going to be buying 10-20 mags for it, with the expectation that they may have to last me and my kids lifetimes.
And this is another thing recommending Glock mag compatibility. Post AWB/Mag Ban, Glock mags will be far and away the most widely available 'pre-ban' magazine, by a huge margin. If someone buys a post-ban pistol that takes Glock mags, they have a pretty good chance of snagging a few pre-bans to go with it. The odds of finding pre-ban CZP10 mags.... much less.
Further, the very thick, polymer nature of the Glock mag makes it the ideal AWB magazine, because unlike a thin wall metal magazine, Glock mags can be 3D printed.
Already, we are at the point where a $200 3D printer can make functional Glock mags, using only $0.87 in plastic:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ock-magazines/
In 5 years, printers will have progressed to the point where their printing resolution is even finer, and lower end printers will be able to print in Carbon Fiber Reinforced Polymer, such as used in the MakerX, which produces parts stonger then commercial injection moulded glass filled nylon.
So the Glock mag is not only the most common 9x19 magazine today, but it is far and away the most viable post-ban magazine of the future.