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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    Actually, they were/are Libertarians. Big difference there. Mike Pence, the current VP, was a yuge free trade conservative. Check out his voting record on free trade agreements in the senate.

    https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-...e#.XWMLL-hKhPY

    So I guess it wasn't an unusual conservative agenda. Or maybe Pence isn't a true conservative, don't know.
    The Kochs aren't libertarians, they are crony capitalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David C. View Post
    The Kochs aren't libertarians, they are crony capitalists.
    How so?

    This is from the Libertarian website.

    .....it follows that the freedom to contract to obtain, retain, profit from, manage, or dispose of one’s property must also be upheld.
    The difference between Trump and the Koch bros. is Trump is in favor of tariffs, less immigration and protectionism while the Koch bros. are champions of free trade, open markets and using legal immigrant labor. Some very divergent views.

    Trump would have gladly taken Koch money during his campaign but they didn't offer it up for those reasons. Trump's campaign even ask them for money. Easily worth 10 times Trump's net worth I think it fair to say that David Koch was indeed a capitalist. They didn't make all that money running non profit organizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    Easily worth 10 times Trump's net worth I think it fair to say that David Koch was indeed a capitalist. They didn't make all that money running non profit organizations.
    Last I checked, Bloomberg is worth 10 times what Trump has claimed to be worth. Kochs are worth a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    How so?

    This is from the Libertarian website.



    The difference between Trump and the Koch bros. is Trump is in favor of tariffs, less immigration and protectionism while the Koch bros. are champions of free trade, open markets and using legal immigrant labor. Some very divergent views.

    Trump would have gladly taken Koch money during his campaign but they didn't offer it up for those reasons. Trump's campaign even ask them for money. Easily worth 10 times Trump's net worth I think it fair to say that David Koch was indeed a capitalist. They didn't make all that money running non profit organizations.
    Most would consider stealing oil from an Indian Reservation and using political connections (i.e., Bob Dole) to avoid criminal charges crony capitalism.
    http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/03...koch-brothers/
    https://lakotalawproject.wordpress.c...g-from-tribes/
    https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...ft-496726.html

    The Kochs aren't libertarians, they just don't like laws or national governments that get in their way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David C. View Post
    Most would consider stealing oil from an Indian Reservation and using political connections (i.e., Bob Dole) to avoid criminal charges crony capitalism.
    http://swampland.time.com/2011/10/03...koch-brothers/
    https://lakotalawproject.wordpress.c...g-from-tribes/
    https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...ft-496726.html

    The Kochs aren't libertarians, they just don't like laws or national governments that get in their way.
    I think most people would say they're Libertarians. I don't know exactly how they managed their business but I doubt Enron was squeaky clean either. They fueled Mike Pence's political career and he's now the VP. My guess he's there because Trump thought he had connections to Koch campaign donations. If there's any skeletons in the Koch bros closet they got there with the help of Mike Pence and other GOP politicians. When you point fingers at the Koch bros you also point fingers at republicans and US corporations in general. In 2010 their efforts helped republicans win 63 seats in congress. A couple of really bad dudes there. I guess you would rather they fund democrats.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/69371...e-u-s-politics
    Last edited by Borderland; 08-26-2019 at 09:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
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    No we aren’t.

    Who is this “we” you speak of?

    He was a neoconservative - a LIBERAL; a Globalist.


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    I worked for one of their holdings.

    It all looks good from afar.

    If you study then you’ll find them quite putrid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    I worked for one of their holdings.

    It all looks good from afar.

    If you study then you’ll find them quite putrid.


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    Did you give back any of the money they paid you while you were working there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    Did you give back any of the money they paid you while you were working there?
    While I never worked for Koch Bros, this type of comment really irritates me, as I have worked for some really fucked up people early on in my career.

    A lot of company “Leaders” can be the largest hypocrites on the planet, by not practicing what they preach. To them you are only a number and nothing else. Thankfully those days are behind me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guinnessman View Post
    While I never worked for Koch Bros, this type of comment really irritates me, as I have worked for some really fucked up people early on in my career.

    A lot of company “Leaders” can be the largest hypocrites on the planet, by not practicing what they preach. To them you are only a number and nothing else. Thankfully those days are behind me.
    I've worked for real assholes myself but it was for the paycheck, no illusions there.

    Most large corporations aren't socially responsible no matter what they say in the media. They spend millions trying to project a corporate image that's 180 from how they actually operate.
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