HK P30 LEM Trigger

[JonInWA]

LEM has nothing in common with a double action.

I always thought of it as a long travel Glock trigger.

People try to make them better, but that's the opposite of what it was designed to be...

I understand what you're saying, and I agree to an extent, particularly regarding V1 LEM, which has characteristics of both a SA and a striker-fired action. However, in my opinion, V2, V4, V4.1 and V1.5 I argue ARE more like a DAO than a striker-fired action.

After some intensive discussion here, on HK Pro with TooSixy, and with HK CS and HK Armorers, the substitution of the medium-weight Trigger Rebound/Return Spring significantly transformed the pull resistance (particularly up to and including the break point) so that it is more akin to DAO (and what I've termed "V1.5"); trust me, I'm pretty familiar with DAO on a semi-auto....

I don't personally agree with the 4.1, which is LEM with a shorter take-up, which, while it may improve "shootability," I feel is counter to the intent and purpose of LEM. So you and I are probably on the same sheet of music there.

Best, Jon

[Coyote41]

I don't personally agree with the 4.1, which is LEM with a shorter take-up, which, while it may improve "shootability," I feel is counter to the intent and purpose of LEM. So you and I are probably on the same sheet of music there.

Best, Jon

4.1 is less an enhancement to the trigger and more of “I have stubby fingers and need a shorter reach trigger for proper finger placement”. The amount of difference in 4.1 is so small that it really doesn’t change anything except allowing a shooter with smaller hands get acceptable finger position.

[Kirk]

4.1 is less an enhancement to the trigger and more of “I have stubby fingers and need a shorter reach trigger for proper finger placement”. The amount of difference in 4.1 is so small that it really doesn’t change anything except allowing a shooter with smaller hands get acceptable finger position.

Tend to agree with this. Had 3 V4.1 and a couple of V1s and V2s. My favorite setup by far was the TLG version.

[JonInWA]

4.1 is less an enhancement to the trigger and more of “I have stubby fingers and need a shorter reach trigger for proper finger placement”. The amount of difference in 4.1 is so small that it really doesn’t change anything except allowing a shooter with smaller hands get acceptable finger position.

. I can buy into that. Thanks for opening my eyes to that application. Best, Jon

[gunrascal]

I changed my P2000 V2 to a Todd Green type trigger; really like it for carry; priorities are safety, reliability, accuracy; this HK gives nothing up to my P229, P99 or 1911.

[GJM]

I was organizing some stuff, and stumbled on a P30 LEM, that I forgot I still had. Dry fired it some, and thought what a nice pistol. Have shot it three times in the last week, and while I wouldn’t take it to a competition, it sure seems like a nice carry pistol, especially appendix. I really can’t split it faster than .21, although that is not much of a consideration for EDC use. What it shines at is on the accuracy end of the speed/accuracy continuum. It just stacks shots into the A zone. Next up, to shoot it one hand only, where I have felt the LEM trigger was previously a hardship.

[JonInWA]

George, it's a positive piece of cake compared to single-handed shooting my Beretta 93D-after all it's optimizations.... Best, Jon

[HCountyGuy]

Next up, to shoot it one hand only, where I have felt the LEM trigger was previously a hardship.

Curious as to your experiences to have formed that opinion.

[GJM]

Curious as to your experiences to have formed that opinion.

Rogers School, numerous shooters.

[Tom Duffy]

I really like the LEM P30 trigger, but I don't shoot fast enough that the trigger holds me back. I suggest you take a look at P.E. Kelley's youtube video shooting the P30 LEM.