MR416 fails InRange mud test

[StraitR]

I wasn't familiar with the mechanical differences between the MR556 and the 416, but I assumed there were some. Wasn't there a barrel difference too? Like, chrome lined (416) vs not chrome lined (MR556)?

I don't put a lot of value in these tests, but they are entertaining. FWIW, the legendarily reliable AK (an Arsenal) choked on the same test. There's a difference in reliable in adverse conditions and dumping shovels of sandy mud in the action.

One thing tests like this (and the one's done by MAC) accomplish in spades is whipping up an emotional frenzy from the brand and platform loyalists. The AK community about had kittens. I can only image the HK community is doing the same.

[Greg]

HK butthurt is some of the best butthurt....

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[LittleLebowski]

Accuracy is important.

Sorry, fixed.

[Sigfan26]

Sorry, fixed.

Love it.


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[Guinnessman]

Someone needs to show this video to the anti’s.

Mud is all you need to stop this instrument of death and destruction. 😱

[LittleLebowski]

https://youtu.be/YAneTFiz5WU?t=153

It seems relevant, at least in the above-linked previous demonstration with an AR, that he finger-swiped the majority of debris clear with "let me get the rocks out of the gun" and then swipes 4 times in 2 different direction.

As opposed to: https://youtu.be/HYAEGgf_8LU?t=187 wherein there is no finger swipe and a minimal shake.

There are many, many advantages to short-stroke gas piston ARs of quality: and most of them are primarily relevant to organizations and less relevant to individuals. Reduced wear to the operating group, extended barrel life, reduced backpressure when suppressed, and a greater tolerance for shorter barrels and excitable shooting are examples of such. These are in turn counter-balanced by such minutiae as increased weight, altered recoil impulse and\or peak-stacking on the accelerometer, cam-pin gouging, bolt carrier tilt, and the cyclic rate increasing to the point of sync-issues with the ability of the magazine spring to feed in-pace with; the sort of thing that orgs don't mind finessing, for what they take in trade.

The HK 416s have done well for themselves in a range of configurations and places.

The LWRCis.... less so. One Fed LEA in particular has had a pretty broad range of issues with them.

I know for a fact that one major OGA contractor had to send an entire shipment of brand new LWRCIs back from overseas because they were not functional. PM me for details.

[runcible]

If memory serves, the place where PM used to work, and with the rifles being one of their early PSD configs?

It is ironic beyond belief that barrel life and accuracy are issues for them, given the realities of a SSGP. The general reliability issues are 100% build related.

[LittleLebowski]

If memory serves, the place where PM used to work, and with the rifles being one of their early PSD configs?

It is ironic beyond belief that barrel life and accuracy are issues for them, given the realities of a SSGP. The general reliability issues are 100% build related.

PM?