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  1. #21
    Slammin' with Abandon
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    Feb 2011
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    NE Indiana
    5" m&p with dawsons
    jmck aiwb 2.5 with phlster tuckstrut
    t shirt concealment

    3x5

    Total time - 29.57

    1. 2.45 - 1 hit
    2. 2.56 - 2 hits
    3. 2.11 - 2 hits
    4. 2.09 - 2 hits
    5. 2.04 - 1 hit
    6. 2.34 - 2 hits
    7. 2.12 - 2 hits
    8. 2.09 - 2 hits
    9. 2.10 - 2 hits
    10. 2.41 - 1 hit
    11. 2.29 - 0 hits...
    12. 2.46 - 1 hit
    13. 2.51 - 2 hits

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    Pretty similar times, a bit faster but the 11th run f'd me. pulled the pair low. struggled today with prepping the trigger and yanked through the takeup on a few of the mikes. My skills are slowly deteriorating with lack of dry practice, or so it feels.

    I also ran the same concept at 25 yards on 8" steel, stealing the idea from @scjbash. It was fun and I think they both have merit as something to run back to back.

    Times for the 8" were - 47.32
    1. 3.36 - 2 hits
    2. 3.18 - 1 hit
    3. 3.44 - 1 hit
    4. 3.59 - 2 hits
    5. 3.37 - 0 hits
    6. 4.01 - 1 hit
    7. 3.32 - 2 hits
    8. 3.95 - 1 hit
    9. 4.20 - 2 hits
    10. 4.19 - 2 hits
    11. 3.43 - 2 hits
    12. 3.61 - 2 hits
    13. 3.67 - 2 hits

    I found consistency in the end but unfortunately it was too late, and required 3 extra runs - over 10 seconds of extra shooting....I could have taken an extra .5 per shot and gotten the same time...except I would never need that much extra time. Sometimes it was a less than perfect sight picture, sometimes a yank instead of a press on the trigger, sometimes both. What I like about steel at 25 is I don't have the perpetual urge to eye sprint. It's a constant battle.
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  2. #22
    Site Supporter martin_j001's Avatar
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    Phlster Floodlight at traditional iwb





    39.63 total

    Noticed the faster runs didnít feel much different than the slower ones...I was just seeing what I needed to sooner. Think I may run this more regularly but in a shorter format maybe.
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  3. #23
    Wanted to do this one again, with a different approach: rather than yank the gun out and play "bullseye", just draw and index properly, and fire. I realize this a better way to run the drill.

    PF9C
    DiY IWB holster, run AIWB.
    Untucked t shirt
    Final score 39.83.
    Took 14 iterations. 8 misses (didn't log on which runs), all runs at least one hit.
    Avg. run time 2.90, fastest was 2.44

    Load was x-treme 124gr plated RN, over 4.1 gr Titegroup.

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    I guess I'd say I was "trying too hard" first time I did this. This drill is teaching me, I love that. Relying on a good press-out and index for alignment is much faster than playing bullseye.

    Seems like I knew that....I don't waste time aiming when doing close-in rapid drills, this is helping me expand on that.

    ETA I see a fly in the upper right that looks like a miss! The great outdoors...
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  4. #24
    Slammin' with Abandon
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    Feb 2011
    Location
    NE Indiana
    Cz P09 w/ 13lb hammer spring and cgw extended firing pin
    Jmck aiwb 2.5 with phlster tuckstrut
    T shirt concealment

    3x5

    Total time - 29.27

    1. 2.56 - 2 hits
    2. 2.39 - 2 hits
    3. 2.36 - 2 hits
    4. 2.60 - 1 hit (snatched the SA like crazy)
    5. 2.70 - 2 hits
    6. 2.44 - 2 hits
    7. 2.11 - 2 hits
    8. 2.14 - 1 hit
    9. 2.12 - 1 (snatched SA again)
    10. 2.33 - 2 hits
    11. 2.86 - 1 hit (bad draw, had to adjust grip prior to shooting and rushed DA for a mike)
    12. 2.66 - 2 hits

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    Pretty much even with 5" m&p though 1 less run.

    8" @ 25

    Total time - 49.83

    1. 3.45 - 1 hit
    2. 3.01 - 1 hit
    3. 3.20 - 1 hit
    4. 3.08 - 0 hits
    5. 3.10 - 2 hits
    6. 3.23 - 2 hits
    7. 2.97 - 1 hit
    8. 3.20 - 2 hits
    9. 2.72 - 1 hit (DA miss)
    10. 3.22 - 1 hit
    11. 3.17 - 2 hits
    12. 3.28 - 2 hits
    13. 2.93 - 1 hit
    14. 3.21 - 0 (ugh)
    15. 2.79 - 1 hit
    16. 3.27 - 2 hits

    Nearly all of my mikes at 25 were pulled SA shots. Also my 25 yard time was only 2 seconds slower than my m&p time but I had 3 extra runs. If i could have pulled my head out of my ass then I would've crushed the other if if's and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas. I really like the p09. I ran a 2 shot sweet sixteen (32 shots total) after this to work on the SA to a hard target. Made it to 15 yards with both hits for final score. The sa on this is odd, in that there isn't a defined wall but a roll, which sounds great but I still seem to snatch the shit out of it for some reason or other.
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    Finally getting back to running some DOTW.

    Hands relaxed at sides - USPSA belt/gear CZ P-09/RMR
    30 Shots
    Total time 31.22


    Noticed a LOT. I have been not been shooting index cards or small targets in a bit. I was throwing every first DA shot by an inch or so for most the runs, I easily hit 2nd shot every time except maybe 1. After 10 runs, I ran a few dry runs and noticed myself prepping the DA trigger on the way out and hoping to land on index card and was finishing the press either way. I switched to putting the dot on the card then running the trigger - immediately had 2 hits every run after except 2. Times pretty much stayed the same. Will be working D2 to index cards into my regular live fire - been needing to fine tune my DA press in live fire anyways.

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    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.
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  6. #26
    Glock 19, concealed AIWB
    27 shots
    59.15 total (average 4.23 per string)

    I noticed that I really need to work on my press-outs. I often missed the first shot, whereas usually on something like a FAST test I get the initial hit, then rush the second one and miss.

    I also noticed that I started going faster as the drill went on, but missing more. It was the end of a long, hot session and we were both about done.

    And I noticed that my buddy took his time and beat me (21 shots, 54.39 total, average 4.95 per string).

    Scoring question: Going into the last string, I only needed one hit. I fired two but the first shot was a hit, so I didnít count the time for the second shot - not sure if that was correct.
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    I should probably shoot this one again soon. When I did it the first time I just shot Gabe's "Immediate Incapacitation" drill 10 separate times at "on-demand" speed.

    It's a mind game.
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  8. #28
    Slammin' with Abandon
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    NE Indiana
    smith 617 .22, vortex viper, rogers/safariland grips
    bladetech owb
    no concealment

    Total time - 29.29
    Total strings - 11
    Total shots fired - 22

    1. 3.40 - 2 hits
    2. 2.69 - 2 hits
    3. 2.47 - 2 hits
    4. 2.82 - 2. hits
    5. 2.57 - 1 hit
    6. 2.52 - 2 hits
    7. 2.45 - 1 hit
    8. 2.79 - 2 hits
    9 . 2.47 - 2 hits
    10. 2.49 - 2 hits
    11. 2.62 - 2 hits

    I am still working on quickly acquiring a solid grip on revolvers at speed, both initial grip in the holster and support hand placement. Revolvers mostly point a bit high for me so I had to drop the dot down into the window. Couple that with a poor index and my owb times with a dot gun were equal to my semi auto times from aiwb concealed. But the gun is a hoot to shoot and i look forward to getting an apex kit on this thing down the road! Stupid easy to shoot, and both misses were called instantly with feedback from the dot.

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    First 10, mike was high

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    2nd 10, high Mike, also forgot to paste the first miss

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    Last edited by backtrail540; 08-23-2019 at 06:13 AM.
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  9. #29
    Slammin' with Abandon
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    5" m&p 2.0 w/ dawsons
    jmck 2.5 aiwb w/ phlster tuckstrut
    polo concealment

    Total time - 29.26

    Total strings - 11

    Total shots fired - 22

    1. 2.97 - 2 hits
    2. 2.58 - 2 hits
    3. 2.69 - 0 hits
    4. 2.70 - 2 hits
    5. 2.69 - 2 hits
    6. 2.69 - 2 hits
    7. 2.54 - 2 hits
    8. 2.44 - 2 hits
    9. 2.75 - 2 hits
    10. 2.43 - 2 hits
    11. 2.78 - 2 hits

    I started this drill with a goal of shooting it clean. I was a bit conservative and didn't push very hard but rather let the process happen as was needed. String 3 obviously blew that plan to hell but I maintained and didn't let it get in my head and had a strong finish. The time ended up being similar to the previous runs with this gun where I pushed harder but had more misses. I think the answer is the same as always - do the same thing but faster with less misses and suck less.

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    First ten - note the devilish pair of mikes an inch low and center. Stacked

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    A couple close edge hits. But they left marks and bent the card ever so slightly. I took em
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