Week 331: Twenty Hits (3x5)

[backtrail540]

5" m&p with dawsons
jmck aiwb 2.5 with phlster tuckstrut
t shirt concealment

3x5

Total time - 29.57

1. 2.45 - 1 hit
2. 2.56 - 2 hits
3. 2.11 - 2 hits
4. 2.09 - 2 hits
5. 2.04 - 1 hit
6. 2.34 - 2 hits
7. 2.12 - 2 hits
8. 2.09 - 2 hits
9. 2.10 - 2 hits
10. 2.41 - 1 hit
11. 2.29 - 0 hits...
12. 2.46 - 1 hit
13. 2.51 - 2 hits


First 5 runs


Last 8 runs

Pretty similar times, a bit faster but the 11th run f'd me. pulled the pair low. struggled today with prepping the trigger and yanked through the takeup on a few of the mikes. My skills are slowly deteriorating with lack of dry practice, or so it feels.

I also ran the same concept at 25 yards on 8" steel, stealing the idea from @scjbash. It was fun and I think they both have merit as something to run back to back.

Times for the 8" were - 47.32
1. 3.36 - 2 hits
2. 3.18 - 1 hit
3. 3.44 - 1 hit
4. 3.59 - 2 hits
5. 3.37 - 0 hits
6. 4.01 - 1 hit
7. 3.32 - 2 hits
8. 3.95 - 1 hit
9. 4.20 - 2 hits
10. 4.19 - 2 hits
11. 3.43 - 2 hits
12. 3.61 - 2 hits
13. 3.67 - 2 hits

I found consistency in the end but unfortunately it was too late, and required 3 extra runs - over 10 seconds of extra shooting....I could have taken an extra .5 per shot and gotten the same time...except I would never need that much extra time. Sometimes it was a less than perfect sight picture, sometimes a yank instead of a press on the trigger, sometimes both. What I like about steel at 25 is I don't have the perpetual urge to eye sprint. It's a constant battle.

[martin_j001]

STI Staccato P Duo
Phlster Floodlight at traditional iwb





39.63 total

Noticed the faster runs didn’t feel much different than the slower ones...I was just seeing what I needed to sooner. Think I may run this more regularly but in a shorter format maybe.

[backtrail540]

Cz P09 w/ 13lb hammer spring and cgw extended firing pin
Jmck aiwb 2.5 with phlster tuckstrut
T shirt concealment

3x5

Total time - 29.27

1. 2.56 - 2 hits
2. 2.39 - 2 hits
3. 2.36 - 2 hits
4. 2.60 - 1 hit (snatched the SA like crazy)
5. 2.70 - 2 hits
6. 2.44 - 2 hits
7. 2.11 - 2 hits
8. 2.14 - 1 hit
9. 2.12 - 1 (snatched SA again)
10. 2.33 - 2 hits
11. 2.86 - 1 hit (bad draw, had to adjust grip prior to shooting and rushed DA for a mike)
12. 2.66 - 2 hits


First 10


Last 14

Pretty much even with 5" m&p though 1 less run.

8" @ 25

Total time - 49.83

1. 3.45 - 1 hit
2. 3.01 - 1 hit
3. 3.20 - 1 hit
4. 3.08 - 0 hits
5. 3.10 - 2 hits
6. 3.23 - 2 hits
7. 2.97 - 1 hit
8. 3.20 - 2 hits
9. 2.72 - 1 hit (DA miss)
10. 3.22 - 1 hit
11. 3.17 - 2 hits
12. 3.28 - 2 hits
13. 2.93 - 1 hit
14. 3.21 - 0 (ugh)
15. 2.79 - 1 hit
16. 3.27 - 2 hits

Nearly all of my mikes at 25 were pulled SA shots. Also my 25 yard time was only 2 seconds slower than my m&p time but I had 3 extra runs. If i could have pulled my head out of my ass then I would've crushed the other if if's and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas. I really like the p09. I ran a 2 shot sweet sixteen (32 shots total) after this to work on the SA to a hard target. Made it to 15 yards with both hits for final score. The sa on this is odd, in that there isn't a defined wall but a roll, which sounds great but I still seem to snatch the shit out of it for some reason or other.

[miller_man]

Finally getting back to running some DOTW.

Hands relaxed at sides - USPSA belt/gear CZ P-09/RMR
30 Shots
Total time 31.22


Noticed a LOT. I have been not been shooting index cards or small targets in a bit. I was throwing every first DA shot by an inch or so for most the runs, I easily hit 2nd shot every time except maybe 1. After 10 runs, I ran a few dry runs and noticed myself prepping the DA trigger on the way out and hoping to land on index card and was finishing the press either way. I switched to putting the dot on the card then running the trigger - immediately had 2 hits every run after except 2. Times pretty much stayed the same. Will be working D2 to index cards into my regular live fire - been needing to fine tune my DA press in live fire anyways.

[Gun Nerd]

Glock 19, concealed AIWB
27 shots
59.15 total (average 4.23 per string)

I noticed that I really need to work on my press-outs. I often missed the first shot, whereas usually on something like a FAST test I get the initial hit, then rush the second one and miss.

I also noticed that I started going faster as the drill went on, but missing more. It was the end of a long, hot session and we were both about done.

And I noticed that my buddy took his time and beat me (21 shots, 54.39 total, average 4.95 per string).

Scoring question: Going into the last string, I only needed one hit. I fired two but the first shot was a hit, so I didn’t count the time for the second shot - not sure if that was correct.

[cornstalker]

I should probably shoot this one again soon. When I did it the first time I just shot Gabe's "Immediate Incapacitation" drill 10 separate times at "on-demand" speed.

It's a mind game.

[backtrail540]

smith 617 .22, vortex viper, rogers/safariland grips
bladetech owb
no concealment

Total time - 29.29
Total strings - 11
Total shots fired - 22

1. 3.40 - 2 hits
2. 2.69 - 2 hits
3. 2.47 - 2 hits
4. 2.82 - 2. hits
5. 2.57 - 1 hit
6. 2.52 - 2 hits
7. 2.45 - 1 hit
8. 2.79 - 2 hits
9 . 2.47 - 2 hits
10. 2.49 - 2 hits
11. 2.62 - 2 hits

I am still working on quickly acquiring a solid grip on revolvers at speed, both initial grip in the holster and support hand placement. Revolvers mostly point a bit high for me so I had to drop the dot down into the window. Couple that with a poor index and my owb times with a dot gun were equal to my semi auto times from aiwb concealed. But the gun is a hoot to shoot and i look forward to getting an apex kit on this thing down the road! Stupid easy to shoot, and both misses were called instantly with feedback from the dot.


First 10, mike was high


2nd 10, high Mike, also forgot to paste the first miss


Das gun

[backtrail540]

5" m&p 2.0 w/ dawsons
jmck 2.5 aiwb w/ phlster tuckstrut
polo concealment

Total time - 29.26

Total strings - 11

Total shots fired - 22

1. 2.97 - 2 hits
2. 2.58 - 2 hits
3. 2.69 - 0 hits
4. 2.70 - 2 hits
5. 2.69 - 2 hits
6. 2.69 - 2 hits
7. 2.54 - 2 hits
8. 2.44 - 2 hits
9. 2.75 - 2 hits
10. 2.43 - 2 hits
11. 2.78 - 2 hits

I started this drill with a goal of shooting it clean. I was a bit conservative and didn't push very hard but rather let the process happen as was needed. String 3 obviously blew that plan to hell but I maintained and didn't let it get in my head and had a strong finish. The time ended up being similar to the previous runs with this gun where I pushed harder but had more misses. I think the answer is the same as always - do the same thing but faster with less misses and suck less.


First ten - note the devilish pair of mikes an inch low and center. Stacked


A couple close edge hits. But they left marks and bent the card ever so slightly. I took em