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    Quote Originally Posted by TDA View Post
    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...-white-saviors

    Here’s an interesting article about the evolution of pro out-group bias amongst affluent white liberals. It seems to be driven by Facebook, particularly the algorithm driven bubbles of racial outrage stories that can form in the attempt to drive engagement with the platform and its advertisements.
    Interesting article, thanks for the link.

    It also demonstrates, at least to me, how unfounded many of these perspectives are when it comes to the facts...

    There is no simple or single explanation for how this process got started. It appears to be driven by an interplay of factors: preexisting tendencies among white liberals; a series of polarizing events like the police shooting of Michael Brown and subsequent riots in Ferguson...
    There is no shortage of oppression and injustice in America and the wider world. But things are not nearly as bad nor as uniformly black and white as they appear on Twitter and YouTube feeds. Hispanics, Muslims, and other minorities do not leave their homes and enter a world where white racism greets them at every street corner. In fact, multiple recent studies find no racial disparities in police use of deadly force. The odds of an unarmed black person being shot by police appear to approximate his/her chance of being struck by lightning. The probability of being killed by a right-wing extremist is equally low, if not lower. Of course, violence committed by police officers or motivated by prejudice offends our sense of morality and violates our vision of a just society in a way that lightning strikes and other nonhuman events do not; but for this moral outrage to inspire judicious outcomes it has to be kept in perspective.

    Unfortunately, the outrage delivered through digital media tends to distort this vital perspective. America is perceived as incorrigibly unjust, racist, and in need of radical transformation. Compounding this, the perception of benefiting from such iniquity through white privilege naturally produces heightened feelings of guilt, anger, and an empathic desire “to do something” to help the suffering, or to at least signal one’s moral virtue to others.
    ...and of course, when all else fails "blame the Jews" is always available for a quick and easy villain and target. Apparently that card is the joker in every deck.
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    There are not many things that piss me off these days.

    But to see our National Flag taken down, and the flag of a foreign country raised in its place, yeah, that would be one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondering Beard View Post
    If I remember correctly, the Baader Meinhoff gang (and all the other leftist terrorist groups in Europe) came from well off families.
    As were the Weathermen/Weather Underground.

    Apparently the combination of a sheltered upbringing and attending college as a social networking phase results in the abstraction and distance from real people required

    to embrace Marxism and Maoism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    As were the Weathermen/Weather Underground.

    Apparently the combination of a sheltered upbringing and attending college as a social networking phase results in the abstraction and distance from real people required

    to embrace Marxism and Maoism.
    I think there's a certain amount of truth in that...enhanced and perhaps exacerbated by the technological changes and idealism spawned during the post war years of the fifties and on. People wanted what they wanted and they wanted it "now". Perspectives appeared to be radically altered in the wake of WWII. Few of us were immune from the gravitational field exerted in the 50's and 60's and beyond.

    I can tell you that it was a crazy time to be growing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    I don't know what to make of this.

    Given that probably 90-99% of the protesters were white Americans, it strikes me as cognitive dissonance, political ignorance - oh I get it - it's more slacktivism.

    Illegal immigrants aren't in this country, because they want it to become Mexico/Wherever - they're here because it is not Mexico/Wherever.

    Also, I've never met a Mexican who would go to a political rally. That's silly, if the politics suck, we just move.

    But they don’t understand why it’s different. That’s a major issue.

    Some cultures are better than others. They need to be taught this, understand it and live it. They need to be American.

    My soon to be wife is from Mexico. She has a harsher view of illegal immigration than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewbie View Post
    My soon to be wife is from Mexico. She has a harsher view of illegal immigration than me.
    Congrats, Newb.

    People that stand in line and do it right always resent those that cut the line and break the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Congrats, Newb.

    People that stand in line and do it right always resent those that cut the line and break the rules.
    Thank you.

    I don’t blame people trying to get here anyway possible. However they have a moral responsibility to put their new country first and adopt its values the best they can. Yes I believe in immigration control and even a wall, just I understand their desire.


    Of course many Americans don’t understand what it means to be American. Between the education system, college, and politicians who don’t believe in American values, it’s no surprise we are losing our identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewbie View Post
    Thank you.

    I don’t blame people trying to get here anyway possible. However they have a moral responsibility to put their new country first and adopt its values the best they can. Yes I believe in immigration control and even a wall, just I understand their desire.


    Of course many Americans don’t understand what it means to be American. Between the education system, college, and politicians who don’t believe in American values, it’s no surprise we are losing our identity.
    We lost that identity with the mind numbing regularity of pigeonholing everyone as an African-American, Italian American, Irish American, Jewish American, Mexican American and on and on ad nauseum.

    I say this facetiously but it should be a crime to refer to oneself as any kind of an American but an American.

    I am an American. First, last and always. I'm glad my (and my wife's) forebears came here...but once they did they became Americans.
    (And learned to speak English.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondering Beard View Post
    If I remember correctly, the majority of members of leftist terrorist groups worldwide came from well off families.
    FIFY. "Right Wing" terrorist groups don't get off, either.

    And, of course, bin laden and other leaders of al qaeda, including of course the 9/11 shitstains.
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