Remember The Alamo

[blues]

I understand folks have strong feelings on the subject of immigration and borders...but this is unacceptable to me.

Authorities in Colorado restored an American flag to its place Friday evening after protesters demonstrating outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility pulled down the star-spangled banner and flew the flag of Mexico in its place.

The protesters also removed a “Blue Lives Matter” flag, honoring law enforcement, spray-painted it with the words “Abolish ICE,” then raised the flag upside-down, on a pole next to the Mexican flag, according to local media.

[RevolverRob]

I don't know what to make of this.

Given that probably 90-99% of the protesters were white Americans, it strikes me as cognitive dissonance, political ignorance - oh I get it - it's more slacktivism.

Illegal immigrants aren't in this country, because they want it to become Mexico/Wherever - they're here because it is not Mexico/Wherever.

Also, I've never met a Mexican who would go to a political rally. That's silly, if the politics suck, we just move.

[Wondering Beard]

Given that probably 90-99% of the protesters were white Americans, it strikes me as cognitive dissonance, political ignorance - oh I get it - it's more slacktivism.

To your point: Compared with the rest of the (nationally representative) polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated—and white. They are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than $100,000 a year.

[NickA]

Illegal immigrants aren't in this country, because they want it to become Mexico/Wherever - they're here because it is not Mexico/Wherever.

Also, I've never met a Mexican who would go to a political rally. That's silly, if the politics suck, we just move.

Back when the immigration stuff started heating up (12 years or so?) my father in law was interviewed for a story in Texas Monthly. (He was an immigrant who ended up working on the ranch of a major political figure from the 70s. One of that family became a writer).
Anyway, there was a protest scheduled the next day in Austin. When asked if he would attend, he looked at the guy sideways and immediately said, in Spanish, "Hell no, I have to work and don't have time for that foolishness".
That's the immigrants I'm familiar with. He might be the bravest, toughest SOB I've ever met.
You figure our Greatest Generation was tough and resilient because of the wars and the Depression, but that's just basically how it's been in Mexico for the last century or so - a constant struggle just to get by.



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[blues]

To your point: Compared with the rest of the (nationally representative) polling sample, progressive activists are much more likely to be rich, highly educated—and white. They are nearly twice as likely as the average to make more than $100,000 a year.

Rich people make the best socialists.

[HCM]

Rhetoric has consequences.

Tacoma police shoot man throwing incendiaries at Northwest Detention Center


https://komonews.com/news/local/taco...tention-center

Officers responded to the scene at about 4 a.m. Saturday to find the man outside the facility, armed with a rifle and throwing the incendiaries. One vehicle caught fire, and the suspect also tried to blow up a large propane tank and outbuildings.


When officers arrived, shots were fired, although no police were injured in the incident. After police retreated, others found the suspect dead at the scene.

[blues]

You figure our Greatest Generation was tough and resilient because of the wars and the Depression, but that's just basically how it's been in Mexico for the last century or so - a constant struggle just to get by.

Pretty much the same for immigrants from any nation that came here for economic or political reasons.

I know it applies to my own relatives from various spots in Europe...and the same can be said for those coming from Haiti, Cuba, the Americas, and pretty much any other place you care to name. Anyone who has spent any amount of time around immigrants in their own families, or just those they have encountered in their day to day lives, has to respect the toughness and resiliency of folks who were committed to fighting to survive and make a better life for themselves and their families.

[TDA]

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...-white-saviors

Here’s an interesting article about the evolution of pro out-group bias amongst affluent white liberals. It seems to be driven by Facebook, particularly the algorithm driven bubbles of racial outrage stories that can form in the attempt to drive engagement with the platform and its advertisements.

[HCM]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...a-deportations

[Wondering Beard]

Rich people make the best socialists.

If I remember correctly, the Baader Meinhoff gang (and all the other leftist terrorist groups in Europe) came from well off families.