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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Alright Hi Point, let's see that "Tweaked 733"
    Sure.



    Some background may help with this one, anyway. In factory form, the hammer spur on the 733 and 732 blocks the rear sight like many older revolvers primarily intended to be fired aimed single-action with DA as a secondary point-shooting option. Can't have that so I partially bobbed the hammer spur to clear the sights. Why not a full bob? Concerns about reliable ignition, especially as the hammer spring needed trimmed. The standard double-action trigger pull was not at all smooth and very heavy. I trimmed about 2.5 coils off the hammer spring and brought it out to shoot this 3-5-7 Drill and test ignition. The stocks suck just like S&W's equivalent but Pachmayr unfortunately discontinued their replacements so I wadded some rubber bands at the wrist. Primarily as a nod to the old days of holsterless IWB carry with such things and partially as an index to keep my fingers low enough for a workable grip and web of my thumb somewhat consistent. Ammo used: Magtech lead wadcutter at three and seven yards, PPU lead round nose at five yards.



    Looking at the primers, this is about as light as I'll go. Plenty healthy hits and the trigger is much improved so not going to chase the dragon. These little things aren't as bad as first impressions would suggest if one is willing to do some fiddling. Oh, I had painted the rear sight black and front sight a base coat of black with white over the top half. Going to put green over the lower half black for better indication that my front is hanging high. Gun fits a Mika pocket holster for either a Ruger LCR or S&W J-frame rather well, by the way. Also reloads just fine from HKS size 32J speedloaders and has chamfered charge holes from the factory. It's not a carry piece to me but is quite a fun mousegun.

    Edit: Forgot to mention the O-ring on the distal ejection rod groove. Helps when opening the cylinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Point Aficionado View Post
    Sure.



    Some background may help with this one, anyway. In factory form, the hammer spur on the 733 and 732 blocks the rear sight like many older revolvers primarily intended to be fired aimed single-action with DA as a secondary point-shooting option. Can't have that so I partially bobbed the hammer spur to clear the sights. Why not a full bob? Concerns about reliable ignition, especially as the hammer spring needed trimmed. The standard double-action trigger pull was not at all smooth and very heavy. I trimmed about 2.5 coils off the hammer spring and brought it out to shoot this 3-5-7 Drill and test ignition. The stocks suck just like S&W's equivalent but Pachmayr unfortunately discontinued their replacements so I wadded some rubber bands at the wrist. Primarily as a nod to the old days of holsterless IWB carry with such things and partially as an index to keep my fingers low enough for a workable grip and web of my thumb somewhat consistent. Ammo used: Magtech lead wadcutter at three and seven yards, PPU lead round nose at five yards.



    Looking at the primers, this is about as light as I'll go. Plenty healthy hits and the trigger is much improved so not going to chase the dragon. These little things aren't as bad as first impressions would suggest if one is willing to do some fiddling. Oh, I had painted the rear sight black and front sight a base coat of black with white over the top half. Going to put green over the lower half black for better indication that my front is hanging high. Gun fits a Mika pocket holster for either a Ruger LCR or S&W J-frame rather well, by the way. Also reloads just fine from HKS size 32J speedloaders and has chamfered charge holes from the factory. It's not a carry piece to me but is quite a fun mousegun.

    Edit: Forgot to mention the O-ring on the distal ejection rod groove. Helps when opening the cylinder.
    Interesting. Very nifty little piece.

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    442 from safariland 25

    Fail

    3 yards - 3.89 -1
    5 yards - 5.86 clean ot
    7 yards - 5.05 clean ot

    Put one high at 3 sho, the post was a bit proud of the notch. Shot the 5 yard strong clean but was a bit too conservative as far as time, a bit gun shy after the Mike above no doubt. Shot as the sights allowed and went clean ot at 7.

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    3 yards sho

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    7 yards fs


    Also first time out with the vz grips. Dig them enough. Pretty thin but work nice in the pocket. A bit more harsh with recoil on my 130s though. May try the wrap around vz in the future. These will be fine for now
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    I use this once per range trip as my first drill with my 442. Here was today's.

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    Clean sho@3

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    Pulled one fs @5

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    Clean but ot fs @7
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    442 from an ess pocket holster, cut down uncle mikes combat grips

    Fail

    3 yards - 4.31 clean
    5 yards - 4.52 clean
    7 yards - 4.08 down 2

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    Ran this today to put my new zulu bravo kydex aiwb through it's paces. Had a very solid passing run.

    3 sho - 4.41
    5 fs - 4.65
    7 fs - 4.66
    Clean

    So far I'm really digging this aiwb rig.

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    I also ran a failure to stop variant with the same cof but 3 to the 4x6/2 to the 3x5 each string. Still 3 yards sho, 5&7 fs. Fun variant. 1 Mike at 3 and 1 at 7, both on the 3x5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backtrail540 View Post
    I also ran a failure to stop variant with the same cof but 3 to the 4x6/2 to the 3x5 each string. Still 3 yards sho, 5&7 fs...
    Ooo, neat. Need to try that!

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    Hoping to join in this drill regularly as I desperately need to work on shooting my pocket gun, but it is a g43 so you guys can kick me out if it's a revolver only club. You guys are running those wheel guns quite well.

    Ran these the other day. Did not run from pocket with hand on gun, ran from gun lying on table. I had a new RO and didn't know if he was good with me running drill from the pocket - will find out, plus I know the regular RO could probably care less. Also just ran loaded with 6 rounds even though I +1 for carry, just made loading up more simple.

    Fail.
    1st string got hits but over time by .04

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    2nd string one shot high.

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    3rd string 2 out, 1st shot anticipated badly and sent into the head box.

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    Ran the last 2 strings again just because I knew I could keep the hits in, and did so handily.

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    Really like the drill, Will try to shoot this often. I have tons of room to improve.
    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.

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    Ran this again, this time from the holster - was a tiny faster from pocket vs table pick up. Pretty much passed if using the entire head box, or failed if using the 4" circle. Other shooters set timer off so showed scroll shot when needed - 6th shot.

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    Enjoyed it again and will try other versions next time.
    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.

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