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Thread: The Shit Storm that is the NRA Today & How We Got Here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    Didn't notice. I usually just throw it in the garbage before I read anything in it. It's mostly just ads and WLP's bullshit column to keep the demented old timers happily renewing their memberships.

    That's pretty funny considering Federal can't make enough ammo to keep up with demand. Advertising does exactly what to increase sales in 2021?
    It was kind of funny. The story they put it on was the cover story too. Of course it was NOT the LE line. It was all retail baby! Kinda wonder how the Remington folks are feeling about their Vista owners now as I would have expected and big historical Remington centerfold flyer in it's place.

    And to the thread. I'm also in the "club requirement" membership category. I'm happy they are still around and wield the power that they do and all, but WP is the ball and that monstrosity of a Board is the chain. I don't know how they make it through the headwinds honestly which is sad, they have some good people there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan1980 View Post
    I don't know how they make it through the headwinds honestly which is sad, they have some good people there.
    What kills me is the wasted time & potential! If they would team up with GOA and company, think of what we could get accomplished! Fer fuck's sake! And NOW would be a fine time to get it accomplished.

    Criminal assholes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Catshooter View Post
    What kills me is the wasted time & potential! If they would team up with GOA and company, think of what we could get accomplished! Fer fuck's sake! And NOW would be a fine time to get it accomplished.

    Criminal assholes.


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    We just engaged in what I’m pretty sure is the largest 2A issue advocacy/advertising campaign in history to defeat Chipman with about 3 million spent. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...de%3f_amp=true (We obviously spend a lot more on election advocacy, but that’s the largest non-election 2A campaign that I’m aware of).

    Even Chipman recognized that it worked: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2021...not-go-quietly

    We can’t work with groups that engage in scorched earth all the time. Those tactics get you PNG’d from most legislative offices, which would make it impossible to do our jobs. Look at the most recent addition of some gun control provisions to NDAA. How well do you think it works to call everyone who voted for that bill a tyrant? Don’t you think that will affect those groups ability to engage with those members’ offices?

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    Josh:

    Speaking for myself, WLP and the BOD simply have no goodwill whatsoever upon which to trade. The shadow they cast is so wide that it covers anything connected to the NRA.

    Spending sprees, intern follies, set aside jobs, bad faith legal filings and a corporate "structure" that allows for virtually no meaningful BOD oversight =Not a dime more until WLP and most of the BOD is gone.
    I am not your attorney. I am not giving legal advice. Any and all opinions expressed are personal and my own and are not those of any employer-past, present or future.

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    Have folks been following the story about the museum and building. Sounds pretty horrific.

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    Folks: I am the above referenced museum curator for the NRA National Firearms Museum. Suffice it to say that it is very bad at NRA HQ. I believe that the museum has been allowed to remain closed, know for more than a year and a half, due to major problems. I'll give you folks some background - feel free to skip to the end if you wish.

    When I was furloughed in early 2020, the understanding given to the many dozens of staff displaced was that it was a temporary situation and that when COVID rules in the state of Virginia eased - we would all return to work. Bear in mind that the staff furloughed were all over the HQ and were responsible for many daily functions. Our mailroom, for example, was reduced to two staff and NRA departments now have to go down to it to retrieve their mail daily. Certain divisions, like the museum, had only one "essential" staffer allowed to remain. For some reason I was not selected as the essential staff despite having seniority and wider ranging program responsibilities. The individual selected was only responsible for the NRA Gun Collecting program and had little experience with the collection record database. Our Registrar and our FFL person were also furloughed.

    Initially the furloughed museum staff had been permitted to use the NRA email system and a VPN (virtual private network) was established to allow me and the Registrar to continue inputting and updating collection records. Then that came to an abrupt halt, as NRA realized that furloughed staff were not allowed by law to continue working - even on a volunteer basis. Now skip forward a year.

    Furloughed Museum staff had received little to no information on NRA matters and the NY bankruptcy trial was in full swing. Only glowing pieces in the NRA magazines stating - "all was well" but no mention of staff return. I had completed 35 years with the Association by that point and was nearing early retirement age, so I decided to retire. When furloughed, we had all received notice that we would need to contact NRA Security to return to our offices to retrieve personal belongings. So I did and was told - no problem, come by on this date and time.

    Then things went strange. I was told by the "essential" museum staffer that no - I could not come into my office and I would have to provide a list of what material and personal belongings I had. Fortunately - all my personal loans had been logged through our Director, who had retired prior to COVID. The loan contract files were in the Registrar's office and I explained what to do. On the appointed day, I showed up and was directed to the Multi-Purpose Room (in the other tower of the complex) and some of my personal loans were there. Not everything, by any means. I signed for what was there and asked to return in a month for the remainder. I and the Registrar also offered to come in to help locate the missing items.

    Fortunately, I had both the Registrar and the FFL person to assist in packing up these loans in both of my cars. The Human Resources Director had intervened and I was allowed to go into the second floor offices and pack up my personal belongings inside my office. If I had been forced to list all my books - it would have been another volume.

    At the conclusion of this, I wanted to get a farewell photograph with my Registrar and FFL person in the museum galleries downstairs. Nope - denied by the essential staffer.

    I knew that there had been a "VIP" tour that had gone through the galleries recently and pointed that fact out. No matter.

    To cut to the chase - several of my personal loan items could not be found, despite having been securly stored in the museum conservation lab and in exhibit cases. It took three more months to get a check from NRA for these missing items. Why so long? The essential staffer refused to answer emails or telephone calls for a three week period and I finally went up the food chain. At that point, I also noted that the essential staffer had not been answering Facebook inquiries (I still had access to the Museum Facebook page). That evidently didn't sit well with the essential staffer as I was removed from the Facebook page and he also unfriended me on Facebook. Oh well. Folks further up the line also slow-tracked my reimbursement and I had to finally contact the NRA Secretary to get any response.

    So if you've managed to read through all this. Here's the part that should make your blood boil. At one point in the retrieval of my items, I got a call from an auction house that I knew. They had been unable to reach the Museum essential staffer and wanted to know what the status was on a shipment of museum guns going off to auction. When I went on furlough - we had no such shipment planned. Any deaccessioning of the collection would have to be conducted through established policy and approved by the NRA Gun Collectors Committee. And also ask yourself - where would this money be going?

    So have museum guns been removed from the collection? Don't really know. All I know is that to this date - I have not been permitted inside the museum galleries. Those of you that have met me or know of me will recall that I have a near photographic memory for the collection and I really didn't need the collection database to identify or locate any collection item. I fear the reason that neither I or the Registrar were allowed into the galleries was that we would immediately recognize that part of the collection was gone.

    The NRA National Firearms Museum remains closed even today, despite just about every other Virginia museum reopening. I sent the essential staffer and his superior information on reopening I had gleaned from visiting other museum, but no response. If you read the Facebook questions being posed on the Museum's page - you'll see a lot of other folks are puzzled why the doors are still shut.

    The HQ roof is leaking badly and the NRA legal library on the 6th floor had to be moved to a small building next door. The lower level where the vaults are located has flooded in the past. I have no idea how the collection is faring. In the past, I had a team of volunteers that regularly mornings would go through cases waxing firearms and checking for any problems. When we didn't work in the galleries, we worked down in the vaults. Sadly I recently got a call from a museum lender that had asked from a historic piece back.

    He told me his pistol was rusted. That would not have happened when I was on watch. There are millions of dollars of guns just in the galleries.

    I am a 4th Generation NRA Life member and was proud to work for the Association for 35 years. Now, not so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan1980 View Post
    Did you notice the 8 page fold out add for Federal Premium right smack in the opening fold of the article on Remington's ammunition reboot? I thought that was horribly bad form myself. Nothing against Federal but I'd have declined it's placement if I was in charge of the magazine.

    ETA: It was in the Rifleman.
    Didnt notice, but meh (no slight intended). ATK owns them both now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    Have folks been following the story about the museum and building. Sounds pretty horrific.

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    Folks: I am the above referenced museum curator for the NRA National Firearms Museum...
    That’s pretty damn bad, if so.
    ”But in the end all of these ideas just manufacture new criminals when the problem isn't a lack of criminals.” -JRB

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcdgrips View Post
    Josh:

    Speaking for myself, WLP and the BOD simply have no goodwill whatsoever upon which to trade. The shadow they cast is so wide that it covers anything connected to the NRA.

    Spending sprees, intern follies, set aside jobs, bad faith legal filings and a corporate "structure" that allows for virtually no meaningful BOD oversight =Not a dime more until WLP and most of the BOD is gone.
    I completely agree. They are not the NRA, we (and our donations) are. I have no interest in funding the LaPierre cult of personality and malfeasance. Clean house, then I'm all in again. Only a fool wouldn't recognize the contributions and importance of the NRA, but by the same token, only a fool would think the part (Wayne and BOD) are more important than the health of the whole of the NRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcdgrips View Post
    Josh:

    Speaking for myself, WLP and the BOD simply have no goodwill whatsoever upon which to trade. The shadow they cast is so wide that it covers anything connected to the NRA.

    Spending sprees, intern follies, set aside jobs, bad faith legal filings and a corporate "structure" that allows for virtually no meaningful BOD oversight =Not a dime more until WLP and most of the BOD is gone.
    I totally get that. I was just pointing out that contrary to implication in the post I quoted, we are doing quite a lot.

    Also, I'd probably be violating my fiduciary duty to not point out that donations can be made directly to ILA, and, per the bylaws, those funds can only be used by ILA. We also have NRA-PVF and NRA Victory Fund (Super PAC). Donations to those will be used for political purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totem Polar View Post
    That’s pretty damn bad, if so.
    I work in the building every day. The roof has been under repair for a few months (unfortunately we got a lot of rain mid-repair, which led to some leaks). We haven't had any leaks since the new roof was sealed (a few weeks ago).

    As far as the museum goes, I hope the BoD has made the decision to sell some guns. We have a ton of guns with no historical value that just sit in vaults. I'd rather they be returned to circulation where they can actually be used and appreciated.

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