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    "That led me to try the CZ P09, which I had Primary Machine direct mill for a DP Pro. I really liked the P09, but after a month or so I ran into the problem where I could get click instead of bang on double action shots."

    What is the solution for "click instead of bang" on double action shots with the P-09?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911Nut View Post
    "That led me to try the CZ P09, which I had Primary Machine direct mill for a DP Pro. I really liked the P09, but after a month or so I ran into the problem where I could get click instead of bang on double action shots."

    What is the solution for "click instead of bang" on double action shots with the P-09?
    This has already been discussed at length in several threads. See post #278 and following:
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....roblems/page28
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    Thank you very much for the quick response. I recall the discussion, but hadn't paid all that much attention to it, as I was totally focused on Shadow 1 pistols (and still am).

    But I have a CGW P-09 on the way to me and my interest has renewed. I appreciate this forum and all the knowledge base that makes it such a valuable and enjoyable resource.

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    @GJM I don't recall from the P09 thread but did you have failure to fire issues with the stock CZ P09 trigger components?
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    why not a CZ shadow instead of Shadow 2??? It meets the weight without any extra work. The same magazines and grips as Shadow 2. Even a holster that works for Shadow 2 would be a good fit for Shadow. (Not the other way around). I shot both a lot. The same internal parts. The difference it like between G17 and G34. If you like DA/SA guns and your production gun is Shadow 2, I do not understand why you need a Shadow 2. Get a used Accushadow and you are good to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911Nut View Post
    Thank you very much for the quick response. I recall the discussion, but hadn't paid all that much attention to it, as I was totally focused on Shadow 1 pistols (and still am).

    But I have a CGW P-09 on the way to me and my interest has renewed. I appreciate this forum and all the knowledge base that makes it such a valuable and enjoyable resource.
    I suggest that you follow the instructions in the linked thread, so you can see what it takes to cause the hammer to drop to half cock. I have been able to do it with every 09 or 07 I’ve tried, regardless of parts. For me, it takes a very contrived trigger pull. @GJM and I do not agree about whether this is a problem. I understand why he thinks it is, but I do not. I’m carrying a Cajunized P07 right now.
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    USPSA Carry Optics pistols

    Quote Originally Posted by GreggW View Post
    @GJM I don't recall from the P09 thread but did you have failure to fire issues with the stock CZ P09 trigger components?
    Yes. It was not a CGW problem.

    Please go through the threads guys, this is one serious fucking rabbit hole every time it comes up. I know it’s a shot ton of info. This is not a problem that everyone has, buy one and shoot it. See if it happens to you. If so move on. If not happy trails with a badass da/sa pistol


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheby View Post
    why not a CZ shadow instead of Shadow 2??? It meets the weight without any extra work. The same magazines and grips as Shadow 2. Even a holster that works for Shadow 2 would be a good fit for Shadow. (Not the other way around). I shot both a lot. The same internal parts. The difference it like between G17 and G34. If you like DA/SA guns and your production gun is Shadow 2, I do not understand why you need a Shadow 2. Get a used Accushadow and you are good to go
    The S2 fits me better, and why not go with the latest, best gun? A few $100 more and a trip to the shop isn’t a big deal in the USPSA world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trukinjp13 View Post
    Yes. It was not a CGW problem.

    Please go through the threads guys, this is one serious fucking rabbit hole every time it comes up. I know it’s a shot ton of info. This is not a problem that everyone has, buy one and shoot it. See if it happens to you. If so move on. If not happy trails with a badass da/sa pistol


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    I did read the thread and I didn't want to read it again. That's why I tagged GJM and asked him the question being that he's the OP and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    The S2 fits me better, and why not go with the latest, best gun? A few $100 more and a trip to the shop isn’t a big deal in the USPSA world.
    Shadow has the same grips. It feels 99.99% the same with the same grips. I still have both - you are welcome to try. Regarding the "latest, best" - again - all the internal parts are the same and interchangeable. All the parts used in Shadow 2 can be used in Shadow. The frame and the slide are a little different but it is absolutely not worth any metal removal to meet the weight. I am pretty sure that the removal a of any metal from the frame and slide does not make it "better". As someone who broke a slide on Shadow and a frame on Shadow 2, I am sensitive to this type of modification.
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