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    7.62x39 outdoors defense load?

    I'm wanting to use one of my AK's as a camp defense gun until I can get a .300 BLK or something like that. Is there a particular flavor of 7.62x39 that would be good for your typical lower 48 types of critters? Black bears and cougars mostly. I was planning on using my M92 PAP which has a ~10" barrel and/or a typical 16" barreled rifle.
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    Federal makes a Fusion Soft Point load for the 7.62x39. When I was thinking about getting a 7.62 upper for my SBR, that's the load I was looking at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigghoss View Post
    I'm wanting to use one of my AK's as a camp defense gun until I can get a .300 BLK or something like that. Is there a particular flavor of 7.62x39 that would be good for your typical lower 48 types of critters? Black bears and cougars mostly. I was planning on using my M92 PAP which has a ~10" barrel and/or a typical 16" barreled rifle.
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    Should be really similar to .300 BLK 110 gr. TSX which is the most recommended supersonic round for hunting/self-defense, the DPX ammo uses TSX bullets also.

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    Federal 123 gr Fusion
    Hornady 123 gr SST (improperly labeled VMAX)
    Lapua 125 gr JSP
    Winchester 123 gr JSP

    Of note, most of the “cheap” Russian JHP/JSP ammunition offers poor terminal performance; what does work are loads using the 7.62x39mm Ulyanovsk Machinery Plant 8M3 bullet.
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    Fusion is essentially Gold Dot tech in a Federal box instead of a Speer box. Use an ammo search engine to find the best price. I managed to pick up a few hundred in 6.8 last year for ~$0.35/rd after rebate.

    Lots of 7.62x39 AR guys report their most accurate load being the SST with 1680 powder. I'm not confident with SSTs in higher-velocity cartridges, as they can come apart and not penetrate well if driven too fast. My understanding is they are essentially Hornady's typical accuracy and a red tip in a conventional cup-and-core bullet. But with the lower velocities of 7.62x39, it's probably a really good match for deer and other soft-bodied stuff.

    I'm surprised to see the Barnes bullet shedding pedals at 7.62x39 velocity in that vid.
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