Come July the Interstates in Illinois will be jammed bumper to bumper as people flee this monstrosity of a State. I looked at a new subdivision in Wisconsin last month. The saleswoman told me that she had 16 potential buyers take a look at the model homes. Every single one of them was from Illinois.
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Not another dime.
I don't know about "just beginning" -- I remember the exodus after congress passed the Pension Source Tax Act of 1996. Before that California could tax its retirees who left the state. Afterwards, CA retirees fled to Nevada, Texas, and Florida (states with 0 tax on pensions). Today about 1 in 5 Calpers beneficiaries lives out of state.
In the last 25 years, 3.5 million more Californians have left the state than other Americans have come to California. We would have lost population except we have so many foreign born residents (28% - 11 million).
I live in a county that neighbors Dallas, it is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Toyota recently relocated here. Three California families bought houses in my neighborhood as a result.
Two of the families are absolutely wonderful people. They have wholeheartedly adopted their new state, and tell me they have just been overwhelmed by the warm greeting they have received. They're just awesome folks, and everyone loves them.
The third couple is truly a stereotype. I'm not kidding, it's literally like every bad joke about recent arrivals rolled into one package. Prius in the driveway, political signs in the yard, campaigning against vaccinations in the local schools, etc.
When I was engaged in an involuntary conversation two months ago, Roy remarked how resistant Texans are to change. I mentioned to him "It's because we don't have anywhere else to go. And we tend to get annoyed when provoked."
I got a blank look. I told him he might want to look up what happened about 180 years ago when a bunch of Texans, with the help of some friends from Tennessee and Virginia, decided they had been pushed far enough. It might be instructive for him and his friends to consider.
He rolled his eyes and said "Oh yeah, history".
I told him that probably one of the most horrible things that could happen to this country would be his progressive friends provoking Texas past a tipping point. That it would be a calamity of Biblical proportions, that would be a terrible loss for all involved. And that we might not survive as a nation or even a people. That there would be no winners at all in that scenario, and probably not even many survivors.
He just shrugged, and said "Yeah, folks like you just stay buried in the past."
I truly fear people like Roy. He has enough brains to be dangerous, but not enough brains to understand consequences.
SALT cap was a good thing.
I know it's causing a mass exodus from some states but the fed shouldn't be giving high rollers a tax break because their state income and property tax is high.
We used to use it when we were working and it saved a few bucks at tax time but mostly it was meaningless because we don't own expensive property and there is no state income tax here.
People moving from CA into our area is driving our real estate market thru the stratosphere. Our property value has gone up about 15% a year in the last 2 years. Not complaining. We invested wisely while working so we have enough money to pay our property taxes.
One of the nice things about this country is when things get too oppressive in one state there's always a U Haul trailer available.
Here's a picture of Nevada on the Loneliest Road in America (Rt. 50). Plenty of room for people who want out of CA.That car was the only one I saw for about 5 minutes.
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In the P-F basket of deplorables.
Plano hasn't had an unemployment or underemployment problem. Before Toyota, if you lived in Plano, you didn't need the kind of job that Toyota was offering, and after Toyota you still didn't need the kind of job that Toyota was offering. If you lived in Plano before Toyota your tax burden increased, thanks to tax incentives and Toyota bringing in people from out of state, and you don't really need anything that Toyota is offering. I know that job creation is an easy win for politicians, but around here it leaves me scratching my head. We are increasing the tax burden on people that didn't need the jobs to bring in people that are fleeing high tax states.Originally Posted by SeriousStudent
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right.
That's what's going to be the downfall of Florida. People fleeing 3rd world socialist governments like Haiti, Venezuela, New York, Puerto Rico, Cuba, California, etc and then try to install the same type of assholes they run away from.
One of many reasons I'm trying like hell to go back to Alabama. I know I can't outrun demographics, but I'm hoping AL's "reputation" survives long enough to keep all the assholes at bay.
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As a Californian who frequently thinks about moving, I can't help but wonder what states will remain conservative?
None.
A million legal immigrants a year, 30+ million un-repatriated illegals waiting out the Trump administration, leftist control of the education system brainwashing the young people...
None, unless these states are in different countries.
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