California seizing land from farmers for failed train project

[LittleLebowski]

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Up and down the San Joaquin Valley, farmers have similar stories. The state can take land with a so-called order of possession by the Superior Court while it haggles over the price.
But farmers often face out-of-pocket costs for lost production, road replacement, repositioning of irrigation systems and other expenses, which the state agrees to pay before the final settlement.
Those payments and even some payments for land have stretched out to three years. State officials have offered endless excuses for not paying, the farmers say.

[CCT125US]

This type of mess makes my blood boil. I believe I have mentioned it before, but we helped stop a 55,000 acre land grab by pitting the EPA against the USFWS. The grab would have taken prime ag land out of production. It's scary how much land is owned by the State/Fed government.

[ralph]

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Those people will likely never see a dime..That's just the way it is in the land of the communist.. They'll take your land, promise payment, all for the common good, and when the project flops, nobody knows nothing, about nothing, because accepting responsibilty, is something communists won't do..

[LtDave]

One guy who got fed up with local government abuse and took action:

https://www.damninteresting.com/the-...the-killdozer/

[Borderland]

Withhold your state taxes until until the state pays up. When the state says you need to pay your taxes you say the state needs to pay me for land they took first.

Those farmers may never get paid. CA is circling the drain with their socialist gov't. There just aren't enough people to pay the taxes to support the socialism. The ones that can are leaving.

Pretty soon there won't be anyone in CA except the poor and the wealthy.

[Suvorov]

Withhold your state taxes until until the state pays up. When the state says you need to pay your taxes you say the state needs to pay me for land they took first.

Those farmers may never get paid. CA is circling the drain with their socialist gov't. There just aren't enough people to pay the taxes to support the socialism. The ones that can are leaving.

Pretty soon there won't be anyone in CA except the poor and the wealthy.

Not Enough....

At this point in time I think it is time for the Farmers and Ranchers to stop sending food into the urban areas of Kalifornia. It will suck but I have enough food and water to last a month and by that time I'm pretty sure Sacramento will be on its knees.. I'll gladly live off of rice and beans for a couple of weeks and loose another 20 lbs just to watch the ensuing meltdown. Sure, people love the tech coming out of the Bay and the porn coming out of LA, but history has proven people need food more than they need gadgets and after a couple weeks without food, porn won't be needed. Civilization is a fragile thing and it's time that the "leadership" in Sacramento are reminded of that fact.

It will be a good lesson for everyone.....

[ralph]

Withhold your state taxes until until the state pays up. When the state says you need to pay your taxes you say the state needs to pay me for land they took first.

Those farmers may never get paid. CA is circling the drain with their socialist gov't. There just aren't enough people to pay the taxes to support the socialism. The ones that can are leaving.

Pretty soon there won't be anyone in CA except the poor and the wealthy.

That's right..I figure in another 8-10 years, maybe sooner the only people living in California will be the extremely wealthy and the homeless/extremely poor, who will continue to set up homeless camps where ever they feel like, and shit wherever they're at when nature calls..The best thing that could happen would be if the state defaults on it's debt..Then watch what happens when the free shit stops..

[ralph]

Not Enough....

At this point in time I think it is time for the Farmers and Ranchers to stop sending food into the urban areas of Kalifornia. It will suck but I have enough food and water to last a month and by that time I'm pretty sure Sacramento will be on its knees.. I'll gladly live off of rice and beans for a couple of weeks and loose another 20 lbs just to watch the ensuing meltdown. Sure, people love the tech coming out of the Bay and the porn coming out of LA, but history has proven people need food more than they need gadgets and after a couple weeks without food, porn won't be needed. Civilization is a fragile thing and it's time that the "leadership" in Sacramento are reminded of that fact.

It will be a good lesson for everyone.....

There's only one problem with that..If the state is willing to take your land, they're probably willing to take your food, too.I could see them sending in the National Guard in, forcably taking what they want..Remember, these people are communists, they think like communists, and they'll do what communists always do..take what they want, by force if nessessary..

ETA:
After thinking about it, it really would'nt suprise me that if push came to shove, that the state might take a stab a collective farming, to insure a steady flow of food for the unwashed masses.. The homeless could be put to work on the farms, and they in turn could supply a endless supply of fertilizer (shit).For the communist, this would be a win-win, They could get the homeless out of town, and give them a home on the farm, in return for work(slavery)..How dare the farmer to demand payment for the land we took!!

[Suvorov]

There's only one problem with that..If the state is willing to take your land, they're probably willing to take your food, too.I could see them sending in the National Guard in, forcably taking what they want..Remember, these people are communists, they think like communists, and they'll do what communists always do..take what they want, by force if nessessary..

That is possible - but if this were to happen and assuming enough guardsmen made muster to make it effective, then the mask of these leftists would be pulled off for the rest of America and the "Free" world to see - exposing them for what they really are. Plus - after 2 weeks or so of food shortages - I'm pretty sure that the police and National Guard will be busy elsewhere.

Major cities exist at the pleasure of the agrarian regions, not the other way around. I was here when the train vote happened - it was just a feel good aspirational vote for all the city dwellers who liked the idea without giving any cost to the realities of the project. It's time people in the cities are reminded of how civilization works - I fear requiring everybody to read Richard Scary's "What do People do All Day" is not going to be enough.....

[ralph]

That is possible - but if this were to happen and assuming enough guardsmen made muster to make it effective, then the mask of these leftists would be pulled off for the rest of America and the "Free" world to see - exposing them for what they really are. Plus - after 2 weeks or so of food shortages - I'm pretty sure that the police and National Guard will be busy elsewhere.

Major cities exist at the pleasure of the agrarian regions, not the other way around. I was here when the train vote happened - it was just a feel good aspirational vote for all the city dwellers who liked the idea without giving any cost to the realities of the project. It's time people in the cities are reminded of how civilization works - I fear requiring everybody to read Richard Scary's "What do People do All Day" is not going to be enough.....

That mask was pulled off a long time ago..California has been communist for some time, and the only way it'll stop is when the money runs out..I agree with you..it'd be an interesting couple of weeks while things took a nosedive, I could see all the liberals running to gun shops and demanding to buy a gun NOW! only to find out they have to wait, what is it? 10 days? The look on their faces would be priceless..