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    Quote Originally Posted by karmapolice View Post
    @Mack any chance of doing a run with hook exposed instead of loop!? My main work belt needs a hook outer face inner belt.
    +1

    That's what I would need for work.

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    Received my belt. Initial impressions very positive, and I will be trying to use it as a combo EDC and under belt for my USPSA competition rig.
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmapolice View Post
    @Mack any chance of doing a run with hook exposed instead of loop!? My main work belt needs a hook outer face inner belt.
    I'm in the same boat as karmapolice. I have an Eagle outer belt that I love, but it requires the exposed part of the inner belt to have hooks.

    I would happily buy a pair of the new Specialist belts with the hooks facing outboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    Received my belt. Initial impressions very positive, and I will be trying to use it as a combo EDC and under belt for my USPSA competition rig.
    We are happy to hear that you are liking your belt so far, thank you for the support!

    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    I'm in the same boat as karmapolice. I have an Eagle outer belt that I love, but it requires the exposed part of the inner belt to have hooks.

    I would happily buy a pair of the new Specialist belts with the hooks facing outboard.
    It is unlikely that there will be enough demand for a Specialist.Duty in this configuration. If that changes we will be sure to post it in the thread and send out notification through our newsletter.

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    If you have cloth seats in your POV be careful wearing a hooked inner belt without the outer belt to cover it. I did some serious damage to the seats in my GTI like that.

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    The Specialist.Duty is designed to work as an under-belt and as a standalone belt with all of the same functionality of the Specialist.2 when being worn as a standalone; as @andre3k and others have pointed out when wearing a hook under-belt on its own it creates a number of problems, some of which are the wear to pants, belt loops, clothing, cloth seating surfaces in the office, home, or vehicle, and they collect a lot of debris.

    One of the other issues with setting up a two belt system in this configuration is that loop eventually wears out so duty belts with loop on the inside of the belt will have a shorter service life compared to a duty belt that has hook and requires a loop under-belt.

    The other reason that we will not be producing a hook version is that we are currently in the final stages of testing for a duty belt and for the reasons mentioned above it will only be available with hook on the interior of the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I was wondering that as well. I could see using one of these as the underbelt on my Double Alpha competition belt. It would be cool to wear one belt to a match instead of changing. But the devil's in the details. I would need to see exactly how the loop velcro interfaces with a stiff outer belt with a bunch of heavy gear hanging off it.
    Will you report back if / when you try this ? I have the same goal. I also wonder if youd just order the same size as you wear in the DAA stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    Received my belt. Initial impressions very positive, and I will be trying to use it as a combo EDC and under belt for my USPSA competition rig.
    Ill be most interested in your thoughts on this. Apologies if you posted already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapid Butterfly View Post
    Will you report back if / when you try this ? I have the same goal. I also wonder if youd just order the same size as you wear in the DAA stuff.
    Im going to wait for @GJM to report his experience. Ive tried a Velcro cobra belt before, but just the small amount of nonvelcro area at the buckle caused the outer belt to slip down under load. Id love for this to work but am not optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapid Butterfly View Post
    Will you report back if / when you try this ? I have the same goal. I also wonder if youd just order the same size as you wear in the DAA stuff.
    I wear 32-34 pants, depending upon the cut, and ordered a 36 inch Specialist.2. It could maybe be a inch smaller, 35, but 36 is usable. For reference, I use a size 36 CR Speed/DAA belt for my USPSA rig.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Im going to wait for @GJM to report his experience. Ive tried a Velcro cobra belt before, but just the small amount of nonvelcro area at the buckle caused the outer belt to slip down under load. Id love for this to work but am not optimistic.
    I have worn the new belt every day since it arrived, as a general EDC belt, and as an under belt for my CR Speed USPSA rig. I like that it is less bulky than a regular Velcro under belt. There is definitely the slippery spot where the Specialist buckle is, but it does not seem objectionable. The very best thing is I can use the buckle to cinch the Specialist tight and avoid the regular tussle I have with getting the Velcro under belt tight.

    So far, I give it a thumbs up.
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

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