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    Week 322: If You Aren't Fast Enough, It Doesn't Matter How Accurate You Are

    Week 322: If You Aren't Fast Enough, It Doesn't Matter How Accurate You Are

    Results may be posted until June 24th, 2019.

    Designed by: Gabe White
    Range: 3 yards
    Target: USPSA Metric or IDPA
    Start Position: Holster and Ready
    Rounds Fired: 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Stoeger
    If you aren't fast enough, it doesn't matter how accurate you are...
    I've heard this idea expressed quite a bit less than the idea behind DotW 321 (if you aren't accurate enough, it doesn't matter how fast you are), but it's also true. A big part of the challenge of practical shooting is the recognition that there is a time limit. And while it may or may not be a challenging time limit, it probably cannot be precisely discerned beforehand. We have to shoot accurately enough, at a relevant speed. If we aren't fast enough, it won't matter how accurate we are.

    String 1: Start with loaded handgun at the ready, target at 3 yards. At the start signal, shoot 1 shot to the lower A/-0 zone (body, not head.) Record your time and hit. You must make the hit in less than 0.50 seconds.

    String 2: Start with handgun loaded and holstered, hands at sides, target at 3 yards. At the start signal, draw and shoot 1 shot to the lower A/-0 zone (body, not head.) Record your time and hit. You must make the hit in less than 1.50 seconds.

    You must make both hits under the time limits to Pass.

    Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

    Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used)
    Time and hit on String 1
    Time and hit on String 2
    Pass or Fail
    Anything you noticed

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    Target - Viking Tactics with the USPSA UCM A Zone.

    Gun- Gen 5 Glock 34 MOS with Aimpoint ACRO

    Holster - Safariland 6390RDS ALS holster with OTD Nub mod no concealment

    String 1 - Time .45 A zone hit
    String 2 - Time 1.00 A zone hit
    Pass

    I was at an indoor range I go to every once and a while but had to shoot at one of the booths that you can lift the table so I think just based of perception and not wanting to hit the booth table my draw was a little slower.
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    String 1 - .46 hit
    String 2 - 1.14 hit

    Both hits were low in the A zone, I'd prefer them higher. Shot cold with my carry gun and 147 gr HST.

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    Last edited by backtrail540; 05-25-2019 at 02:57 PM.
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    I figured I'd try this, if only to set the parameters for the far end of the distribution... This was done cold, the first time on the range in a few weeks.

    Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used): IDPA practice target, Beretta PX4 D, JMCK IWB #3 at about 3:30, untucked shirt
    Time and hit on String 1: .55, -0
    Time and hit on String 2: 1.50, -0
    Pass or Fail: Fail
    Anything you noticed: Response to beep bit me in the ass.

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    I did it a second time, times were .43 and 1.51, both -0 hits.
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    Correction to the above post - It had only been nine days since my last range trip, but all I did then was chronograph work. When you get old, the memory is the second thing that goes...
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    19x
    DotW: 3yd speed
    1rd from compressed ready
    Par: .5.
    Time: 1-.62, hit; 2-.5, hit; 3-.7, hit; 4-.41, miss high -1; 5-.6, hit; 6-.53, hit; high ready 7-.36, hit
    1rd from Comp-Tac holster
    Par: 1.5.
    Time: 1-1.26, hit; 2-1.38, hit; 3-1.03, high -3 (miss); 4-1.26, hit; 5-1.18, hit; 6-1.31, hit; 7-1.07, hit

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    Once warmed up a bit, and not trying to press out, the time is very generous. That surprised me, because Iím not particularly fast. Perhaps the draw time from concealed would be a bit tighter, but my shoulder isnít up to repeated grip above the belt-line draws today, so Iím doing the Comp-Tac on a hanger instead.
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