And that right there is basically the reason the 4" revolver is going to be just a notch above the single action revolver and the cap and ball in terms of being a defensive arm.
Ten years ago, I would to tell people that there is absolutely no need to buy a Taurus when you could get a model 10 for two bills. Now, they're more expensive than that, but Palmetto State Armory was just running a sale on M&P shields for 250 bucks. You can get used Glock 17s for 350 bucks.
So there's still no need to buy a Taurus, it's just because you can buy the Shield or the next generation of police trade ins, which are chambered in a better caliber, with more bullets, with an easier to shoot system, better sights, and the ability to carry extra ammo in a low profile fashion. It's a great time to get good deals on guns, but it does make me sad to see the venerable old model 10s to be more expensive than Glock 17s or Smith M&Ps now
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Last edited by 45dotACP; 05-24-2019 at 02:38 PM.
I think this is the most updated version:
Revolver Checkout by Jim March | Day At The Range
EDIT: I think this link goes to the .pdf: https://tinyurl.com/revocheck
Last edited by Drang; 05-24-2019 at 02:58 PM.
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I absolutely love taking a shooter to the range that has never fired a sweet old Smith or Colt wheelgun. You hand them a revolver made 60-ish years ago, and watch them just stack holes. The look as their face lights up is worth it.
There's a reason I'm usually bringing home another old revolver every month. It's because they are worth it.
Dunno about the legend, but Jim Cirillo told me he generally carried two four-inch Model 10s, a heavy barrel and a pencil barrel, plus his ever-present two-inch Colt Cobra with hammer shroud when working stakeout.
I carried my fixed-sight Model 58 M&P voluntarily, on and off the clock, from 1984, until it its action became too loose for me to feel OK shooting it, about 1991. Yes, “M&P” meant a fixed-sight revolver, back then. This sixgun was scary-accurate. Fixed sights that are properly regulated are as good as anything out there. Why should I not want to carry such a weapon, for years?
The adjustable rear sights, on the revolvers I carried on duty from 1984 to 1985, and from 1993 to 1997, “had me a little concerned.”
I remember seeing a colleague drop an S&W Model 686, at the start of a building search, in early 1984. It landed on the rear sight, and the blade broke. Fixed-sight revolvers remain relevant, for a reason.
Like most LEOs in the USA, I owned all of my duty handguns, within guidelines.
My newest weapon purchase is a S&W Model 64-2, 2” barrel. Fixed sight. Just right. Unless there is something found to be wrong with it, I will probably carry it until my gun-carrying days are over.
Last edited by Rex G; 05-25-2019 at 11:07 AM.
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What Mas said, plus an M-1 carbine.
Plus Pat had the luck of the Irish ;-). Allegedly “the luck of the Irish” included taping $20 bills to the soles of your feet to make sure you meet the height requirement.
Back on track, if a 6 shot Revolver meets your needs a M-10 is a fine choice. I have a 1972-ish vintage M10 heavy barrel I bought from a retired NYPD co-worker. Hitting B/C steel at 65 yards with it is no problem.
Last edited by HCM; 05-25-2019 at 01:26 PM.
What MAS said plus an M-1 carbine.
His partner Bill Allard used a 1911 as back up to the .38 that was his official primary. If I recall correct it was a National Match or a Gold Cup. Might be what you are thinking of. NYPDs back up gun rules were a lot looser back then. Carrying a 1911 or BHP as a “back up” to a .38 Revolver was not unheard of.