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    I don't care who any of you voted for. And since I don't have any influence over Mueller or Barr, all I want to know is what to expect from the next round of probes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Sierra View Post
    Good then don't vote for him. Those of us who are more than pleased at our electoral choice really don't give a shit.
    My vote will be to the party that I think will most stop or reverse further socialism. Let me think about which way I am going to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zincwarrior View Post
    You might in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Sierra View Post
    Bet you a hundo
    You'll bet me a hundo that you won't care in 2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by critter View Post
    That wording indicating that someone cannot be exonerated is just seems weird. Granted, my criminal investigatory experience is limited to Forensic Files and the like. Wrongfully convicted are exonerated by DNA evidence. I understand that, but this comes across as one of those "you cant prove X exists".. "well, you can't prove that X doesn't" scenarios. Either there is evidence or there isn't.
    I make those sorts of decisions on a daily basis, though obviously not of this scale or political importance.

    It's really quite simple. Ethically, my job is to prosecute only if I believe there is probable cause to support the assertion that a crime took place. I personally add a "can I realistically prove it?" threshold to that. I write a memo either way. If I decline to prosecute, I explain my reasoning for doing so - lack of evidence, lack of confidence in a favorable outcome (i.e. the evidence meets technical requirements, but facts signal a low probability of success), potentially successful defenses, suppression issues, not in the public interest, etc.

    What I do not get to do is punt and say "I'm not saying he's guilty, but I'm also not saying he's innocent" and make no decision. I either prosecute if the evidence supports it or I don't. I'm not here to exonerate. I'm here to make an appropriate prosecution decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zincwarrior View Post
    Amazon didn't file four casino bankruptcies, an airplane bankruptcy, a university bankruptcy, a food wholesale bankruptcy...
    irrelevant
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssb View Post
    I make those sorts of decisions on a daily basis, though obviously not of this scale or political importance.

    It's really quite simple. Ethically, my job is to prosecute only if I believe there is probable cause to support the assertion that a crime took place. I personally add a "can I realistically prove it?" threshold to that. I write a memo either way. If I decline to prosecute, I explain my reasoning for doing so - lack of evidence, lack of confidence in a favorable outcome (i.e. the evidence meets technical requirements, but facts signal a low probability of success), potentially successful defenses, suppression issues, not in the public interest, etc.

    What I do not get to do is punt and say "I'm not saying he's guilty, but I'm also not saying he's innocent" and make no decision. I either prosecute if the evidence supports it or I don't. I'm not here to exonerate. I'm here to make an appropriate prosecution decision.
    I wish that Mueller would have done exactly as you have described above as it is the right way to do it. In the end the Dems would still be doing what they are doing though, I suppose. Ain't political theatre grand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart Carter View Post
    Heard of Amazon?
    Heard of Twitter?
    Heard of General Electric?
    Heard of General Motors?

    20 of the top Fortune 500 companies lost over a billion dollars in 2016.

    His loss was well documented long ago and included massive write-offs that were in the tax code. The MSM is propagandizing this as the latest news about Trump. He lost it, he got it back plus. That is just how business works.
    None of those companies ever filed for bankruptcy. All of those companies are publicly owned and the stock is traded on some recognized and regulated exchange. None of Trump's companies were ever listed on any stock exchange, all privately owned.

    Trump doesn't want his taxes released because everyone would see what a fraud he actually is. His net worth is probably pretty small when you look at what he owns and what the banks own. We'll all know soon enough what Trump's finances look like when the banks and the IRS turn over their records.

    I have a feeling that Trump supporters won't care tho. All in a days work deceiving the public. More fuel for CNN and the dems to roast Trump with.
    Last edited by Borderland; 05-17-2019 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    I have a feeling that Trump supporters won't care tho.

    You can use this link: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....l=1#post881454

    or simply scroll up 5 posts to see the explanation of this seemingly odd behavior by conservatives, expressed quite succinctly by Bart Carter. Hell, I don't much like the guy and only begrudgingly "trust" him. The man reportedly spent Christmas at Soros' home a few years back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNFAN View Post
    You can use this link: https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....l=1#post881454

    or simply scroll up 5 posts to see the explanation of this seemingly odd behavior by conservatives, expressed quite succinctly by Bart Carter. Hell, I don't much like the guy and only begrudgingly "trust" him. The man reportedly spent Christmas at Soros' home a few years back.
    Which leads (many of us) to Sidhe's clothespin method of voting.



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