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    Quote Originally Posted by TiroFijo View Post
    That's for sure... but this is the "law of the bully", not international law.

    Likewise, if tensions arise with Russia and a pilot gets shot down over their territory, the reaction is different simply because they have bigger fangs.
    Well, we've lost about 200 people that way.
    If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    What resources are you talking about? Oil, food, military assets?

    I don't think the US cares about their military assets. They'll just destroy them all in a week in a head to head.
    Read my earlier posts. Then think about energy stability, economic stability, nuclear capability, regional influence, capability for the projection of military power into enemy territory, containment of competing ideologies, access to markets, those sorts of assets. We aren't tribals going to war for fertile land and laborers. Think like a modern global civilization and consider who else plays on a global stage. Iran, North Korea, they are currently side shows but let them get nukes, things change. Let the region fall under Russian or Chinese influence unchecked by US interests, things change. Again, we didn't go to war in Korea for kimchee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewbie View Post
    Victor Davis Hanson should be read by all, especially those in power.

    VDH-"We Hold All the Cards in the Showdown with Iran" - Excellent article below.

    https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/19/w...own-with-iran/
    Really? You're citing those guys? They make Fox News and MSNBC look objective.
    If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Read my earlier posts. Then think about energy stability, economic stability, nuclear capability, regional influence, capability for the projection of military power into enemy territory, containment of competing ideologies, access to markets, those sorts of assets. We aren't tribals going to war for fertile land and laborers. Think like a modern global civilization and consider who else plays on a global stage. Iran, North Korea, they are currently side shows but let them get nukes, things change. Let the region fall under Russian or Chinese influence unchecked by US interests, things change. Again, we didn't go to war in Korea for kimchee.
    We went to war because they invaded South Korea and we still had US troops there from the occupation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie B View Post
    Really? You're citing those guys? They make Fox News and MSNBC look objective.
    I am citing VDH. He's a brilliant mind.


    Oh, and of course they are not objective. That's not their purpose.

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    LOL. Thanks, Ben.

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    LOL. Thanks, Ben.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zincwarrior View Post
    We went to war because they invaded South Korea and we still had US troops there from the occupation.
    It was, in a vacuum, two dictators fighting over a border drawn by foreign powers (which, of course, is a direct analogy to the recent history of the Middle East). Why did the two superpowers of the Cold War care and each back a horse? Truman's direct quote:

    “If we let Korea down, the Soviet will keep right on going and swallow up one piece of Asia after another…If we were to let Asia go, the Near East would collapse and no telling what would happen in Europe.” _ POTUS Truman

    "...Truman believed that the Soviets wanted to overrun Iran, gain access to Middle Eastern oil, and find warm-water ports in the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean” Source: A Preponderance of Power: National Security, the Truman Administration, and the Cold War


    Combat troops had been recalled ahead of the invasion. That removal of combat troops was one reason North Korea decided they could invade. They had the backing of the Soviets and the US wasn't supplying the same level of support to South Korea. Even if we did have a few remaining troops, it would have been much simpler to withdraw them than to hastily reinforce with under-strength and under-equipped divisions, which is what we initially did (well, after resupplying South Korea and some air/naval assets were committed). Both our actions and the words of the decision makers of the time show we didn't go to war because we happened to have some troops there.
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