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    Modern Samurai Project Black Belt Patch Standards

    I couldn't find a thread where we discussed or ran this. I had a chance to run it today for the first time and man is it a tough standard. It was a challenging and fun test! Going in I was pretty sure I am not quite there as far as hitting the black belt pars, but figured actually running it would give me a feel for how fast I need to be. So the actual standards are as follows (copied from the site) -

    1. 3&2 Drill. 3 yards. 3 shots to the COM Alpha then transition to 2 rounds on a 3x5 card in the head box. Par is 2.0 seconds.
    2. 1 Shot Drill @ 7 yards. 1 shot to COM Alpha. Par is 1.0 second.
    3. Bill Drill. 7 yards. 6 shots to COM Alpha. Par is 2.0 seconds.
    4. 1 Shot Drill @ 25 yards. 1 shot to COM Alpha. Par is 1.5 seconds.


    Pretty tough standards in general, and from concealment at that. I only made one of the standards(string 1) and barely so. But I learned some areas of improvement(need to fix my 25 yard draw(more modulation, less herky-jerky nonsense), grip was sloppy on the bill, etc....but it was an absolute blast running this and I will be incorporating it into more of my live fire sessions and recording it on my performance tracking log. Here is what I did today -

    M&P 2.0 5" from a Henry Holsters aiwb under a fleece

    1. 3&2 - 1.99 clean(barely caught the 2nd 3x5 hit)

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    2. 1 shot drill @ 7 - 1.04 clean(high left in the A but in none the less, albeit OT)

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    3. Bill drill - 2.22 -3c's (sloppy. 2.22 is a great time for me, but I pulled 3 out side the A and it was a generally poor run. I need to run the no fail bill and clean this up)

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    4. 1 shot drill @ 25 - 1.54 -1c (a very low mike. I just shoved the gun out and the front sight dipped. I need to work on my modulation and coming to a clean stop when the shot breaks versus jamming the gun out)

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    So, I know where I am at today, and where I want to be. All that's left is to work on it and get there. Anybody else running this? Where are you at? Hitting the goals? Close? Not even?
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    Good run!

    I just looked at these last week. Definitely some tough times for black belt. I am waiting on an optic cut JM holster to show up, but I might run from my open gamer gear soon.
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    Humbly improving with CZ's.

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    Those are pretty sporty times. Something to give a go at in the off season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clobbersaurus View Post
    Those are pretty sporty times. Something to give a go at in the off season.
    Jedi is on a whole different level than most dudes, especially with his AIWB draw
    I shot the PX4 before it was cool.

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    I'm taking a class with Modern Samurai Project this coming weekend.

    If I'm on my game, I'm accurate and S-L-O-W.

    So I won't be winning any awards. But it looks like a good drill to add to the repertoire of practice drills

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    I ran the 3&2 a few times today, twice with the m&p from concealment and once with the WC gp100 from owb. First run with the m&p had a 3x5 miss low. Second run was clean. The WC gp100 run was OT because I'm still figuring out the round gun draw. Once I get an iwb I'll run it with the gp from concealment.


    3&2 m&p miss


    3&2 clean m&p


    3&2 gp100 OT
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    Loving these standards



    First post here! Very late to the party.

    Iíve been poking at these a while, and have it where I can manage a cold run pass (most days) at everything but the bill drill. I can pull a clean black belt bill about 25% of the time.

    Working in getting a pass SHO now

    http://https://youtu.be/0F37GM0Wv1U

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