Not to derail but the Gen 4 Glock 21 without a back strap is the same circumference as the 21SF and has a slightly larger magazine release. There are some internal differences and you may prefer the texture of the SF but they are the same size.
Edit to add I suppose if you are somewhere the SF is available and the Gen 4 isn’t, California maybe?, that would of course be a factor.
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I have medium hands and find my 41 to be easy to handle (same frame,) especially compared to my late wife’s 21 Gen2. I looked at the 21SF a few years ago but ended up preferring the Gen4.Originally Posted by sharps54
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Even the Gen 4 large frames are slightly too big for my small hands, specifically when shooting one handed.
I wish it weren’t so as it would make life so much easier.
@RJ, I think the biggest question you need to ask yourself is: do you just want to launch .45ACP or do you want the 1911 experience?
The two aren’t mutually exclusive but one path is much easier, if not quite as rewarding.
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I have a Glock 21 in Gen 3 and 4. I much prefer the Gen 4. I shoot it without added back strap. I prefer the grip texture of the 4. I like the larger mag release too. I just feel the 4 is anchored in my hand better due the texturing. And the grip feels a wee bit smaller as well. It’s still a large pistol.
There is always the HK45 and HK45c as well, they fit my hand fairly well but the safety isn’t quite in the right place. I’ll end up with a nice 1911 at some point but only after I pick up a Colt SAA. Funny enough we are talking the same price range for the two anymore.
I too am a glock guy. I bought a G21 SF years ago, heated and flattened the backstrap, textured it and shot it a bit. Ultimately sold it as I could not see myself buying 2 (one to train, one to carry)
I have large hands (barely) in most sized gloves. I found it ok in fit but "off" relative to my G35/34s with which I have launched many thousands of rounds. Perhaps I did not give it a fair shake.
I have often said that if the world went 10 rd max tomorrow, no grandfathering of old mags etc., I would likely buy a brace of M&P 45s, with some apex goodies if needed after shooting them both a bit and still be out less that a Dan Wesson or Springfield model I would otherwise buy to augment the "Truth", my 1999 Series One Kimber Custom Classic.
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Unless someone has very large hands, or is absolutely committed to Glock, I also think the M&P would probably be a better polymer .45 than a G21.
The actual Hilton Yam article seems to be gone from the internet now, but he is quoted here...
https://www.military.com/kitup/2013/...nce-glock.html
If we were comparing the Glock 21 to the M&P 45, then let’s just stop here and declare the M&P .45 the winner and move on. Superior ergonomics by far, good accuracy, and availability of thumb safety to help transition 1911 shooters make the M&P 45 the clear winner in my opinion. Add a viable and reliable factory 14 round magazine, and you pretty much have the whole package wrapped up with a bow.
Of course most long time 1911 users have probably read this article from the late Pat Rogers
"Putting Down the Man Gun" https://www.swatmag.com/article/putt...n-the-man-gun/
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