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    Quote Originally Posted by OlongJohnson View Post
    Government mandated recalls would be worse than the repeal of PLCAA.

    California's "roster" is already based on the assertion that any handgun not on it is "dangerous." Kamala Harris exercised executive authority as AG of the state to declare that any handgun not including microstamping technology could not be approved for listing on the roster. Therefore, by gun banner logic, any firearm not incorporating microstamping technology is dangerous. It's a small jump to say recall and fix them or destroy them. All of them.
    Another point is that they play the long game. They don't need to confiscate the "dangerous" firearms. They just need to make it illegal to transfer them, including by inheritance. This is what CA has already done with registered "assault weapons." Just make it so a recalled firearm that hasn't been "repaired" can't be transferred by an FFL, can't be worked on by a gunsmith, can't be inherited. In a generation, they're all gone.
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    For the question of what Democrats have positive views on gun rights, here's a piece on Bernie, the gun rights supporter!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...c-base-n999326

    So what would you do if the Socialist Wave rider was sporting an AR-15! I might think the best outcome for gun rights with a Bernie presidency, is that he wouldn't be a zealot on pushing gun control. He might go after his main focus of economic issues.

    It is amusing to see the circular firing squad want to take him out as being soft on guns. If Bernie had gotten the nomination and was reasonable on gun rights, the Donald would be spending his time in Trump tower now. Alternate universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    For the question of what Democrats have positive views on gun rights, here's a piece on Bernie, the gun rights supporter!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...c-base-n999326

    So what would you do if the Socialist Wave rider was sporting an AR-15! I might think the best outcome for gun rights with a Bernie presidency, is that he wouldn't be a zealot on pushing gun control. He might go after his main focus of economic issues.

    It is amusing to see the circular firing squad want to take him out as being soft on guns. If Bernie had gotten the nomination and was reasonable on gun rights, the Donald would be spending his time in Trump tower now. Alternate universe.
    Bernie might F over every single business, but I don't thing guns are even on his radar. No doubt he'd cave to party pressure, but he's not going on the hunt.

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    I remember him defending PLCAA in debate against Hillary. Can only guess whether he would return to his apparently real principles on that topic, or stick with the new party line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    For the question of what Democrats have positive views on gun rights, here's a piece on Bernie, the gun rights supporter!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...c-base-n999326

    So what would you do if the Socialist Wave rider was sporting an AR-15! I might think the best outcome for gun rights with a Bernie presidency, is that he wouldn't be a zealot on pushing gun control. He might go after his main focus of economic issues.

    It is amusing to see the circular firing squad want to take him out as being soft on guns. If Bernie had gotten the nomination and was reasonable on gun rights, the Donald would be spending his time in Trump tower now. Alternate universe.
    From the article:

    The Sanders campaign did not dispute Phillips’ account of the phone call. “Bernie has campaigned tirelessly for common sense gun safety legislation,” the Sanders campaign said in a statement to NBC, noting his co-sponsorship of bills including bans on assault weapons and 3D-printed guns and restricting high-capacity magazines.

    The man isn't what I consider 2A friendly.

    Also, he's a damn Socialist and has never worked a day in his life.
    In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.” ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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    Has any career politician worked a day in their lives that would be considered honest work?

    Anyway, the article was fun as it demonstrated that Bernie gets attacked as being progun. Guess he fits in with Bush, Romney, Dole and Trump for supporting an AWB.

    If a socialist was a full on supporter of the 2nd Amend. vs. a conservative who described ARs as evil items to be banned along with strict Red Flag laws that would take guns before due process plus using executive power to ban and confiscate existing accessories, what would one do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NETim View Post
    From the article:

    The Sanders campaign did not dispute Phillips’ account of the phone call. “Bernie has campaigned tirelessly for common sense gun safety legislation,” the Sanders campaign said in a statement to NBC, noting his co-sponsorship of bills including bans on assault weapons and 3D-printed guns and restricting high-capacity magazines.

    The man isn't what I consider 2A friendly.

    Also, he's a damn Socialist and has never worked a day in his life.
    When you can get thrown out of a hippy commune for being too lazy, you are a world class slacker.
    Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for that dumb bastard.

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    Another point in his favor. Executive time and tweeting vs. being a hippie commune slacker.

    What a world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    https://medium.com/@corybooker/corys...c-ab377d9fb112

    For the Orange 4D chess playing genius fans, who set this precedent:
    Trump's executive action on the border wall was directing funds in the enforcement of existing law.

    If Booker wanted to direct funds to better enforce existing gun laws, that would be following precedent.

    Creating new law through executive action is not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NETim View Post
    Are there any Dem presidential candidates remotely friendly to the 2A and law abiding gun owners??
    Given that goddam everyone is running for the DNC primary, I would never say never.

    In practice, I think that the struggle to appeal to middle ground + signal to vocal progressive arm of the democratic party makes anything resembling sensibility on 2A questions very unlikely. Wide swaths of GOP voters/representatives are ambivalent at best about the 2nd amendment, so it's easy points to score for primary hopefuls.

    I suspect packed Dem field leads to an embarrassing "circular firing squad" as former Pres. Obama described it. Bernie has best chance to beat Trump but he faces uphill battle against Biden, candidates of color (eg Kamala Harris). I think unless literally Jesus Christ himself announces he is running, DNC primary will implode on itself and Trump will be around (for better and for worse) for another 4 yr.

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