Booker's plan for gun control

[Glenn E. Meyer]

https://medium.com/@corybooker/corys...c-ab377d9fb112

Pretty draconian. For the Orange 4D chess playing genius fans, who set this precedent:

Finally, beginning on Day One in office, Cory will take executive action to build on ongoing efforts and take concrete steps forward — closing dangerous loopholes in gun sales, cracking down on unscrupulous dealers and gun manufacturers, and investing in communities impacted by gun violence.

Given that Congress is lost on gun positive issues (now how did that happen?), the only hope is the dream that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch will lead the Court to definitively wipe out gun control measures in the states, and if Federal laws or orders are passed, void them. Personally, I don't see that happening with Roberts. At best, we might get a poison bill as was embedded in Heller.

The NRA isn't to be feared now - wonder why.

[Bart Carter]

Isn't closing dangerous loopholes in gun sales his current job? How many bills has he introduced that does that?

[NETim]

Are there any Dem presidential candidates remotely friendly to the 2A and law abiding gun owners??

[Tom Duffy]

From the article:
"Cory will work to close this loophole in federal oversight and allow the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ensure gun safety by making safety warnings and issuing recalls for faulty firearms."

On the plus side, Sig would be held accountable.
The other plus side is that Cory is never going to get elected.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

No, because gun control is a litmus test for purity as is banning abortion for Republicans.

Any reasonable conversation on the issues as been driven to extreme bans due to the righteous wrath of extremists in the primary system.

Surprisingly, Bernie was seen as weak on gun control during his debates with Hillary and called a gun nut. For our paradigm he was a weak pro gun candidate as he didn't support some antigun measures in his role as VT senator. On the national stage, now he is step with the rest. The same happened with Kristin Gillibrand, seemingly pro gun as an up state NY rep, antigunner when told to act that way as Senator.

Crotch control and gun control are the mantras of party purity nowadays.

[joshs]

The NRA isn't to be feared now

Hillary thought so too . . .

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Hillary beat Hillary. I know the NRA put a lot of money into the campaign and must claim significant variance proportion in Donald's win but that's probably not the deciding factor. Anyway, what did the money get you?

1. Financial and scandal distress
2. Bump stock ban and the precedent of executive action let out of the bottle
3. The Congress fleeing from any positive gun legislation the first chance they got.

Gorsuch and Kavanaugh - claimed as a victory with no results yet, and more likely a prize to the anti-abortion/anti-gay rights folks as to the gun folks.

Hillary lost because of ignoring of economic needs of some of fly-over country. The gun vote was already in the bag for Trump. It certainly didn't turn the popular vote count.

[LorenzoS]

Given that Congress is lost on gun positive issues (now how did that happen?), the only hope is the dream that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch will lead the Court to definitively wipe out gun control measures in the states, and if Federal laws or orders are passed, void them. Personally, I don't see that happening with Roberts. At best, we might get a poison bill as was embedded in Heller.

We really need a Supreme Court decision applying strict scrutiny to the 2nd Amendment. This is the only way to protect this right from death by a thousand "reasonable restriction" cuts.

Perhaps the NYC gun license case will deliver on this.

[Zincwarrior]

Hillary thought so too . . .

In a future time, making the NRA an operating arm of the Republican Party might not be viewed as having been a good idea.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Scrutiny is all well and good. It's a trip to the weeds for the legal folks. What is needed is a clear decision that says that we are can possess the small arms (sorry, some want atom bombs at home, not going to happen) equal to that of the infantry person of today. Scrutiny folks seem to think that such a decision process will be positive. Who says? The anti-folks will scrutinize your guns away.

Cut to the chase, SCOTUS. Federal AWB, mag limits are unconstitutional. Similar state bans are too. State laws that stand in the way of law abiding and mentally competent (sidebar on deciding this) purchasing and carry firearms need to go. Any permits or licenses must be granted quickly (if we have such) and not with onerous bureaucratic delays.

Anyway, the opportunity for real legislative progress was frittered away for various political, venial (money raising needs to keep the threat alive) and personality flaws.

Here's a clue - the progun politicians at the highest level say they will 'defend' the 2nd Amend. Ever hear a major speech saying they will 'expand' the 2nd Amend. rights? Nope. Too busy looking for the Socialist wave to hit the beaches and sign up for the wine club.

We do get some progress at the state levels in already very progun states. The anti and mixed states will roll back gun rights after each rampage horror show.

The inability to craft a progun message for those outside the choir is a major problem.