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Thread: Help me choose a new edc belt (AIWB)- Wilderness, Blue Alpha, or Vdevgru

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    Help me choose a new edc belt (AIWB)- Wilderness, Blue Alpha, or Vdevgru

    I've been satisfied with my Wilderness 5-stitch belts for the last decade or so, and the velcro has seen better days. Looking to buy a couple of replacements in the near future and I'm wondering if I should go a different direction. I only carry a pistol and one spare mag on my belt (JMCK AIWB and JMCK SPMP exclusively). My one complaint about the Instructor belt is the buckle occasionally prints at 12:00, and I cannot offset it comfortably. So, I'm looking for something with a lower profile buckle. This will be added to my normal EDC, riding through jeans belt loops, and using a cover garment.

    These are the belts currently in the running: Wilderness 5-Stitch Frequent Flyer, Blue Alpha Gear Lo-Pro EDC, and the Vdevgru AIWB Belt.

    Anybody have any experience, recommendations, or thoughts on any of these belts? Thanks guys.

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    The buckle is too big on the Frequent Flier for AIWB. Half the hoop would lay across my holstered Glock, causing the outer edge of the hoop to dig into me more than the pistol.

    Vdev isn't thick enough. I liked it when I first got it in mid-summer and was running a G43. As it cooled and I moved into jeans and a G19, I found that the thin part of the belt cut into me once it was tightened enough to carry a heavier daily load.

    And here's 21 pages of a lot of well deserved P-F love for the Graith Specialist belt nee Mastermind Tactics. Fantastic AIWB belt.
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....pecialist-Belt
    Last edited by Gun Mutt; 05-02-2019 at 01:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Mutt View Post
    The buckle is too big on the Frequent Flier for AIWB. Half the hoop would lay across my holstered Glock, causing the outer edge of the hoop to dig into me more than the pistol.

    Vdev isn't thick enough. I liked it when I first got it in mid-summer and was running a G43. As it cooled and I moved into jeans and a G19, I found that the thin part of the belt cut into me once it was tightened enough to carry a heavier daily load.

    And here's 208 pages of a lot of well deserved P-F love for the Graith Specialist belt nee Mastermind Tactics. Fantastic AIWB belt.
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....pecialist-Belt
    Well the Vdev is out then. My edc bounces between a g23 and a full steel 1911. I'm going to start reading the thread you directed me to. Can you tell me how the stiffness of the Graith Specialist would compare to a 5-Stitch Instructor? Thanks again!

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    Much more horizontally flexible than the Wilderness, conforms to the body's shape well, yet still fairly rigid vertically.

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    The Wilderness will re-do the velcro on one of their belts for a nominal fee.

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    I've got 3 Wilderness FF belts. The velcro is fuct on two of them and I haven't gotten around to dealing with that because all I wear anymore is the Graith.
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    Throw this into the mix, adds a quick release. Stiffness on the "super stiff" is about Wilderness five stitch if not a little better for AIWB.

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    I have a mastermind tactics (before they became graith) belt and 2 wilderness belts. I just happened to wear one of the wilderness belts today actually. I couldn’t wait to get home to switch it out for the mastermind tactics. I’m going to order a graith and throw the wilderness belts out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Mutt View Post
    The buckle is too big on the Frequent Flier for AIWB. Half the hoop would lay across my holstered Glock, causing the outer edge of the hoop to dig into me more than the pistol.

    Vdev isn't thick enough. I liked it when I first got it in mid-summer and was running a G43. As it cooled and I moved into jeans and a G19, I found that the thin part of the belt cut into me once it was tightened enough to carry a heavier daily load.

    And here's 21 pages of a lot of well deserved P-F love for the Graith Specialist belt nee Mastermind Tactics. Fantastic AIWB belt.
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....pecialist-Belt
    Yup. Too thin where it needs thickness and too thick when it needs thinness. I recently got a Keeper's Concealmment holster with the split kydex loop, couldn't thread the Vdev all the way through. The area where the thin webbing meets the thick webbing makes it 3 layers thick and jams up in the loops.
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    Ares Gear Aegis is the tits.

    I like the regular version better than their "Enhanced". Contrary to their advertisement, my regular versions are stiffer and more supportive than my Enhanced. I keep my enhanced in my battle belt where the stiffness isn't as important.
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