The M17 has a manual safety that doesn’t lock the slide so there is no reason for them to be off safe unless they are on target. That said I don’t know what they will be teaching regarding use of the safety or how effectively it locks the sear, if it does at all.Originally Posted by ralph
I've got two friends of mine who were in the Army, at different points in time, one in the early 70's and the other in the early 90's The pistol "training" they got in basic, was exactly the same, the only difference one used a 1911, and the other a M9. Both told that the training consisted of a quick rundown of the pistols controls, and they were given two loaded mags, one to shoot to get a feel how the gun shot and the other for score..they both said the target they shot was huge, and shot at about 5yds..If you could get all of you shots on the target, ( and it was hard to miss) you passed.. Now, I have NO idea what they do today, I would like to think it's better than that.. If it is'nt, I fully expect to see some ND hijinks in the future..
I guess what suprised me the most, was both told nearly the exact same story, neither one knew each other, and the time difference, (about 18 years), and little changed in that time..
https://www.fox13news.com/news/local...9x7FeLAmpzYI6M
Pasco SO: SRO's Sig Sauer was 'upgraded' for known issue before it misfired in school
According to multiple published reports, and confirmed by Sig Sauer, the P320 has been known to fire, in rare cases, when dropped on its rear. The company has even offered to "upgrade" anyone's P320 to correct the issue. The Pasco County Sheriff's Office says all of its deputies' Sig Sauer P320 weapons were upgraded - including the one that accidentally fired inside the middle school.
Last edited by HCM; 05-02-2019 at 11:53 AM.
I read that article, hence my question:
Are P320s that were “upgraded” (already on the market) potentially less safe than pistols that were produced having been designed around the fix (manufactured post-Dropgate)?
Last edited by HCountyGuy; 05-02-2019 at 12:03 PM.
“Conspiracy theories are just spoiler alerts these days.”
Sorry - didn’t see it was posted already. The fact that the gun in question was upgraded means they need to take a hard look at the upgraded guns if nothing else is found in the cafeteria video.
I don't believe so. From what I've read and seen, aside from a new disconnector cut in the slide's underside (done in upgraded and new production guns) everything else is a drop-in parts swap. Should be identical guts.
FWIW....I talked to our SIG rep today, and asked about this incident. He's been pretty straight with us about other issues and problems. He said it's their belief the SRO involved will be a former employee soon. And that in addition to video contradicting the SROs account, there's the fact that the holstered gun somehow cycled, ejected the case, and fed another round. Hmmmmm.....
...just when I had started to trick myself into bringing my 320's back out....I'll stay with my SP2022, thank you....
As many have said already, I think for a lot of us we are past the point of it being about what really happened...the doubt and stomach acid which rear their heads from the past make it not worth the trip down this road again.
It was a 6360:
"Hunter said the school officer’s P320 went through that voluntary upgrade program and was returned to the agency in October 2018. It was holstered in a Safariland 6360 triple retention duty holster."
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...oubled-history
That is an unusually well-written article.
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