Gun show snag here in RVA

[BillSWPA]

I have found that for K-frame or larger, I prefer either an exposed backstrap or a backstrap covered by only thin rubber that does not significantly change the shape of the backstrap. For my medium sized hands, this allows me to grip the gun so the central axis of the barrel is in line with the central axis of my forearm when viewed from the top, while still getting the right amount of finger on the trigger. This forearm/barrel alignment makes a straight back trigger squeeze easier to perform.


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[03RN]

On the subject of grips, I've gone round and round with all kinds (Hogue full size and bantam, Ahrends tacticals with and w/o finger grooves, Ahrends classics, Magnas and T grip, and the early 2000s S&W OEM plastic/rubber) and settled on Pachmayr Grippers.

A set of Grippers on my 4" 64-5 and the handgun simply doesn't move from my hands in controlled pairs even with Buffalo Bore 158 +P SWCHPs.

I like those as well but after I saw the 3" M66 in the Karl Sokol thread I knew I had to try the compact pros. Even though I had to modify my square butt m64. I am very happy with them. More so than with my VZ grips on my m19.

Absolutely no slipping with heavy reloads.

[Alpha Sierra]

I like those as well but after I saw the 3" M66 in the Karl Sokol thread I knew I had to try the compact pros. Even though I had to modify my square butt m64. I am very happy with them. More so than with my VZ grips on my m19.

Absolutely no slipping with heavy reloads.

I have the Compac Pro on my RB 3" 65 and while it's perfect if all I do is shoot SHO, it's waaaaay too small for two handed shooting. I have hardly any grip surface left exposed for my left hand. For that reason I ordered a K frame RB Gripper from Brownells last night.

The weird thing is that I don't have mongo hands, but I can't shoot handguns with thin skinny grips.

[deputyG23]

I have the Compac Pro on my RB 3" 65 and while it's perfect if all I do is shoot SHO, it's waaaaay too small for two handed shooting. I have hardly any grip surface left exposed for my left hand. For that reason I ordered a K frame RB Gripper from Brownells last night.

The weird thing is that I don't have mongo hands, but I can't shoot handguns with thin skinny grips.

The RB Pachs I have are the older ones that cover the backstrap and are a little too long to the trigger face for me. The ones y'all are referring to might be another option if I don't want to mess with ordering another Tyler T.

[Chuck Whitlock]

I used the Grippers on my issued 64 years ago. Great for shooting, less so for CC for me. Cover garments occasionally stick on the rubber surface. I went full circle. PC Magna stocks with T grip, then to Pach Grippers, then back to Magna/T.
I still have a couple of sets around here somewhere.

I can tell my shirt won't slide over the gun as smoothly as when it wears wood grips but I've never had a failure to clear the shirt during the draw due to the grips being rubber. It also doesn't print any worse than it did with Ahrends grips. I don't know if it's because the holsters and belt I wear pull the grip hard into me, but there it is.

I did have to re-learn the grip part of the draw as you can't put your hand wherever on the grip and expect it to slide easily to the correct place, like you can with wood.

https://www.lymanproducts.com/brands...-s-w-revolvers

Perhaps the best of both worlds?

[Nj Det 354]

Negative. Not sure when they made the switch from LRN (late 70s or early 80s) but mid 80-90s NYPD 38 special ammo was definitely 158 grain plus P lead semi wadcutter solids. Not LRN. The plus P and LSWC bullet shape were the answer to early calls fro hollow point ammo, magnum revolvers etc.

NYPD finally went to autos for new officers in 1994. They were supposed to use 10 round mags but went with full 15 round capacity at the last minute. The initial duty ammo was Winchester USA white box 115 FMJ. They switched to 124 grain +P gold dots 2 or 3 years later after a few “shoot throughs” and other negative outcomes related to the FMJ.

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[J. J. Magnum]

Serious jealousy here. Absolutely gorgeous.

[Poconnor]

I still regret not buying a brand new twin to yours at my LGS a long time ago. I passed because it was only a .38