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  1. #11
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    Brownell's may still sell these. S&W's armorer's kits have them. I have seen them used many times. 5 inches at 25 yards sounds excessive. That's a major adjustment. The bars are for tweaking. Proper procedure dictates using range rods to check alignment of barrel with cylinder after using bars. I have had misalignment result from the procedure. The bars have other uses as well, such applying torque to the frame itself when tweaking cylinder stop movement. I observed master Smith fitters work on 200 Model 65 revolvers shipped to the Texas prison system. The entire batch was defective.

    If I had a valuable older K frame, I would not use the bars to adjust poi. Instead I would seek a load that shot to poi. Neither would I use a file on the front or rear.

    People at the Smith factory told me that they no longer use the bars to adjust or fit. That may have changed.

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    IMO, rather than mess with the gun, I'd find a 125-135 grain bullet that it likes and load a batch for it. I know that Bayou Bullets will size their 9mm offerings up to .358 on request.

    Having that gun's POI is actually a blessing in disguise since it permits the use of modern bonded 125-135 grain JHPs for defensive purposes that usually hit low from fixed-sight revolvers. The reason I still use 158-grain LSWC-HPs in my .38s is that they hit to POA with that load, not because I think that load is more effective.

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    I have a new .38 J frame which shoots high with 158 gr bullets. That fact did not distress me because I knew that with my +p Ranger 125 gr load poi would drop. It did as I had thought. Now I have a death ray on small rocks, dirt clods, stumps, and beer cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck38 View Post
    IMO, rather than mess with the gun, I'd find a 125-135 grain bullet that it likes and load a batch for it. I know that Bayou Bullets will size their 9mm offerings up to .358 on request.

    Having that gun's POI is actually a blessing in disguise since it permits the use of modern bonded 125-135 grain JHPs for defensive purposes that usually hit low from fixed-sight revolvers. The reason I still use 158-grain LSWC-HPs in my .38s is that they hit to POA with that load, not because I think that load is more effective.
    130 bonded +ps still shoot high. Plus this gun is more of a backup/woods/running gun where I'd actually prefer the heavier bullets.

    I've been emailing with Karl Sokol about doing some work on it.

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    One of the simpler things would be to get a small dovetail front sight installed. File it to sight in, shape as desired, serrate the rear face, paint with bright orange paint.
    Last edited by Malamute; 03-21-2019 at 09:23 AM.

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    A good smith can build the front sight by adding metal and then shaping with a file. Or a hollow sight base can be fitted and then pinned over current sight. There are ways to fix issue including inserting a slightly raised fixed rear sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamute View Post
    One of the simpler things would be to get a small dovetail front sight installed. File it to sight in, shape as desired, serrate the rear face, paint with bright orange paint.
    Agree, that's what I would do

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    Or I could just turn off the over head light.

    All better

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    Or I could just turn off the over head light.

    All better
    Pretty easy to get the front sight up out of the notch a little just so you can see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    Or I could just turn off the over head light.

    All better
    All my stainless fixed sight revolvers get sharpie and / or nail polish coloring fir just this reason.

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