I only have experience At the undergraduate level
Yale gives very generous financial aid to a point ie
well over 200 k of family income. Tuition is often covered though room/board/books/travel is not so that probably 15-20k. Incomes under 100ish, the presumption is no parental contribution at all.
After the 200kish level, the aid starts to dry up. The defendants in this scheme presumably have multi million dollar incomes, they would be full pays on both tuition and room/board etc.
Last edited by vcdgrips; 03-14-2019 at 10:41 AM.
For the last few days this has dominated the media seemingly out of proportion to its importance for one main reason: schadenfreude--the pleasure derived from the misfortune of others.
We see these people who are famous, and much richer than us and unnaturally beautiful getting hoisted on their petards for something stupid that they did. Some of these people seemed to have it all: money, unnatural beauty. They don't have to worry about car payments or mortgage payments like many regular folks do, they have much more money than the average American. They live exotic lifestyles. Many people like seeing rich and famous people getting it stuck to them.
Look at this picture of one of the defendants who allegedly paid the fixer to get her daughters into college. Lori Loughlin, wife of a famous fashion designer, and her daughters. I had no idea who these people were before this scandal broke. Here is a picture of them. They are the rich and seem unnaturally beautiful--possibly the result of plastic surgery in the mothers case, and you almost have to suspect genetic engineering in the daughters case because they seem almost too perfect:
But suddenly they have made a stupid mistake and suffer hugely for it in a public scandal with possible prison time
Another person accused is academy award nominated actress Felicity Huffman, who is wife of academy nominated actor William H. Macy. Ironically enough, William H, Macy stars in a Cable drama titled Shameless, where he plays a lowlife scammer.
This whole affair reminds me in a way of the excellent black and white movie The Magnificent Ambersons, written and directed by Orson Welles based on a book by Booth Tarkington. This film follows the richest family in Indianapolis from the late 1800s to the early 1900s, towards the end of which they lose their money. There is a scene in the beginning of the movie where some town folks are gathered outside of their mansion, talking about all of its wonder and how it is the most lavish in town with amenities unknown in that age. Later there is a scene where a young member of their family recklessly drives his house carriage though town, forcing people to jump out of the way. One of the people who jumps out of the way and shakes his fist at him and declares that one day he will meet his comeuppance.
Well, to many people watching this unfold, the rich famous people are getting their comeuppance.
Last edited by Ed L; 03-14-2019 at 12:56 PM.
Nope. Not even close. Yale has a 29.4 billion dollar endowment. If you want to buy favor at that institution, your check needs to have nine digits in it, before the decimal. It needs at least eight digits beginning with 2 and 5 to get noticed by the people who matter.
I know it's a joke. But isn't the intrinsically American part that we work and pull ourselves up by our bootstraps? Therefore the intrinsically un-American part is buying admission to prestigious institutions, instead of working hard to get in?
Why should Lori Loughlin's kid get into USC when there are people who actually worked to get in? Although, from the sound of it, Lori Loughlin's daughter has been 'working' quite hard since she got into USC.
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For the record, I totally get the joke. I guess I just don't find this that funny, just sad. I'm not surprised by any of this. I just worked my ass off to get into highly selective schools and people buy their way in, I understand that happens. But, I'm not into it. I'm glad these folks got caught and that their privilege is going to get them checked right into jail. I want to see the administrative people brought down too. And I'd love to see it serve as a warning to folks thinking of doing this...it won't...but I'd love that.
I'd also love for it to serve as a warning to institutions to be careful what you wish for. With great athletics or academics and a board of trustees made up of yacht owners - you get the money and privilege that comes with the money. But you're also dealing with a bunch of power hungry folks who listen too much to their own bullshit. It would behoove institutions to make sure they build their houses of cards on stable ground. But they won't listen and when the house crashes down, it's never the people with 10+ figure bank accounts underneath it. Just the folks doing an honest day's work.
It makes sense from my perch.
It’s way easier to just write a 1.2 mil check and sign the admission docs then to spend hours studying, testing, applying, visiting, wondering if your kid will be accepted, etc. Convenience is why Starbucks makes a profit, instead of people making coffee and lattes at home for far less money.
Further they can write off the chari- err, bribery payments as a tax deduction.
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
*Puts on Cynic Hat*
This case is just a window into human nature. If there’s an aopprotunity for a quick dollar or more power, some folks will take it regardless of the moral consequences. I’m confident most large universities have a system like this in place. It may not be as organized, and it won’t always involve celebrities. But if you know the right people , one could very well just buy admission.
It need not be money. It could be concert tickets, quid pro quo services...the list goes on. I’ve witnessed a case of a rural University successfully interfering with a police investigation of one of the student athletes.
I’m not starting everyone in a university authority position is a corrupt crook, but just like any other profession there’s bent college admins too. Fact of life.
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
Maybe they should federalize the schools and let these a-holes help pay down the national debt with their bribes to get their do nothing kids into institutions of (alleged) higher learning. At least there would be a benefit to the country.
Frankly, I don't remember being too impressed with the general levels of intelligence (and knowledge) at most universities, ivy league or not, during my years attending same.
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