The problem with the whole thing is the majority of NY LEOs all want to move to Florida and while it is theoretically possible to issue a NY carry license to a non NY state resident I ve never seen it actually happen.Originally Posted by blues
The problem with the whole thing is the majority of NY LEOs all want to move to Florida and while it is theoretically possible to issue a NY carry license to a non NY state resident I ve never seen it actually happen.
There are a lot of things "theoretically possible" when it comes to gun permits, licensing, NYPD and NYC administration of public law.
That said, as with most "possible" things up there, they eventually die from lack of oxygen and never seeing the light of day.
There's nothing civil about this war.
FWIW. I just retired after 28 yrs of LEO in CA, where lawmakers dislike guns, except for their personal protection. Some LEO and prosecutors are more likely to enforce the letter of the law rather than the spirit, so to speak. Anti gun laws are added every year, as legislators respond to ban new gun designs that meet last years new laws. Every year, the legislature places more and more violent criminals on the streets. It’s a mess, and we left and are not going back. I don’t know how these new laws are impacting firearms trainers working with civilians, especially anyone from out of CA.
If you aren’t active CA LEO then the following:
It is ten rounds for handgun or long gun. New CA laws prohibit possession of previously legally possessed higher capacity mags, so you can’t have old mags that were legal. No lead ammo for hunting; black powder guys need to confirm if you are exempt.
ANMO: Residents will need to register & get a permit to buy ammo, even one round. Non residents are SOL. The purchase has to be registered into state DOJ computers. DOJ computers still aren’t programmed for this new process. The paperwork forms still don’t exist for this new process. IIRC, it’s illegal to give or loan ammo. I’ve forgotten many details, so check with a good lawyer. The court battles continue.
Handguns: AR pistols and similar - not worth it: most are illegal per CA laws; the ones that were legally built & assembled & possessed per state DOJ, well the state is now coming after these if they are still assembled, per DOJ agents in just released video during recent seizure. If you live in CA, you can still possess handguns not on the CA safe gun list but they are working to ban those. From out of CA, while visiting or moving into CA, there are ways to bring in handguns not on the safe list, but I don’t know the current laws.
Long guns: unloaded & locked up while transporting. Gun separate from ammo. (Some LEO & prosecutors consider a loaded mag to be a loaded gun.). Mag fed semi auto long guns can be difficult regardless of platform. No lead ammo for hunting or in possession while hunting.
A generally reliable source of info is the legal forum section of Calguns dot net: current updates from both courts and legislature are posted there, including good Atty referrals if you want the actual legal info or advice from an attorney active in current gun stuff.
FWIW and YMMV
John
As a retired LEO do you have any special privileges in CA?
Abridged version;
Bring a revolver.
The Minority Marksman.
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From what I remember Dagga Boy posting that’s nope.
Just a dog chauffeur that used to hold the dumb end of the leash.
I was working for the Texas prison in the early 1980's when Lee Brown became HPD's chief. I remember that he sent out a memo to all Texas pd's requesting that if their officers visited the city that they not carry weapons. Of course, I'm certain that it was ignored.
California recently (2016) allowed honorably retired CA local cops and retired feds to carry high capacity mags again. Previously, retired CA LE were subject to the 10 round mag restriction. PC 32406 is the relevant code section. Not sure if the feds had to have retired from a California duty station, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case. If you’re retired from an agency outside CA and relying on LEOSA to carry in CA, I’d stick with 10 round mags.
Also be aware that some localities in the Bay Area have restrictions on carrying certain types of JHP ammo.
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disembodied soul is looking down at his own corpse wondering what happened.
LEOSA has verbiage addressing ammunition, "Subdivision (e)(2) further states that the definition of “firearm,” “includes ammunition not expressly prohibited by Federal law or subject to the provisions of the National Firearms Act [26 USCS §§ 5801 et seq]"
https://cpoa.org/a-review-of-the-law...-developments/
I believe Denver, CO is one such place. I don't think they exempt anyone including other Colorado departments and agencies. I'm basing this on info from a recently retired Colorado LE family member.
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