View Poll Results: Is it OK for your muzzle to dip after the trigger is pressed with a dummy round?

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Thread: Is post trigger push really a thing?

  1. #51
    Site Supporter P.E. Kelley's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
    Dry-side of Washington State
    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post

    Here is one I set up with the lad and his TRP. He balanced a few empty cases when he was starting out. 1st try 88 feet.

    Guns are just machines and without you they can do no harm, nor any good

  2. #52
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    Oct 2014
    Savannah, GA
    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    TPC is a proponent of isolating the trigger, then letting recoil happen. A potential problem with post ignition push is when it happens during the trigger press.

    The $64 dollar question is whether post ignition push offers any measurable benefit over just letting recoil happen?
    I find post ignition push is entirely subconsious and not something you can train. I don't think you can achieve top level speed performance/recoil control without it. Can you hit 1.7 bill drills or .15 splits, then throw a dummy round in the mag and not a see a dip?

    The problem people run into as instructors is not understanding what it is and beating up shooters who show muzzle dip on a ball and dummy drill when their rounds are hitting the intended target. I won't even put a shooter through a ball and dummy drill unless I see their rounds hitting low or low/left. It has to be a combined diagnosis of rounds hitting low and low/left with a ball and dummy drill flinch to start trying to work on the flinch.
    Last edited by Gio; 02-13-2019 at 03:15 PM.
    Formerly givo08.

  3. #53
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    Oct 2014
    Savannah, GA
    Quote Originally Posted by 0ddl0t View Post
    So I've been reading a number of threads about the ball and dummy drill and I notice that a few seemingly reputable posters claim that it is OK for the gun to nose dive as long as it happens *after* the trigger is pulled. I've always been told you want to be able to balance a coin on the front sight when the firing pin falls on a dummy. Which is right?
    The balance a coin act is great if you're trying to work on a slow smooth bullseye style trigger press. It's not so beneficial for any kind of action shooting.
    Formerly givo08.

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