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    Bill Rapier highly recommended the Ratcheting Medical Tourniquet. He carries one daily and said it was soon to receive TCCC approval. Bill said the windlass on both the CAT-T & SOFT-T are known to break under stress.

    https://www.ratchetingbuckles.com/ap...l-tourniquets/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    This is an excellent turn-key solution: https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/TacM...auze-options=3

    More linkie's:

    https://www.tacmedsolutions.com/SOF-...ourniquet-Wide - I like the orange model, since it shows up in a scene or patient survey. Also, because P-F.
    I got the go ahead to order these this weekend and the plan is for it to be secured in a visible location when she's in the car. I said I'll be looking for a training course and she's open to attending as well.

    @Yung thanks, that's a heck of an offer! I'll PM you shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnO View Post
    Bill Rapier highly recommended the Ratcheting Medical Tourniquet. He carries one daily and said it was soon to receive TCCC approval. Bill said the windlass on both the CAT-T & SOFT-T are known to break under stress.

    https://www.ratchetingbuckles.com/ap...l-tourniquets/
    FWIW, the RMT was specifically not recommended by Dr Peter Pons (designed the Stop The Bleed/BCon course endorsed by ACS, developed in partnership with DHS) because it does not provide true circumferential pressure due to its relatively inflexible plastic ratcheting teeth. This problem becomes especially evident if you try to apply it to a very thing extremity (forearm, esp. of a small woman/child).

    The only CAT-T/SOFT-Ts with windlass breakage I've ever heard are with counterfeit products. The genuine products are the most vetted TQs on the market. No idea why he believes otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnO View Post
    Bill Rapier highly recommended the Ratcheting Medical Tourniquet. He carries one daily and said it was soon to receive TCCC approval. Bill said the windlass on both the CAT-T & SOFT-T are known to break under stress.

    https://www.ratchetingbuckles.com/ap...l-tourniquets/
    If he said that, then he's thoroughly confused.

    As for receiving CoTCCC endorsement......well....it hasn't gotten that in the last ~15-some years of its existence.....

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    I use these .... simple and effective.

    https://ratsmedical.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 41magfan View Post
    I use these .... simple and effective.

    https://ratsmedical.com/
    RATs aren't great because the relatively thin diameter cord they use is much more likely to cause crushing tissue injury over the site of TQ application than the wide, flat nylon bands used by the CAT-T, SOFT-T, and similar. See here for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephrology View Post
    RATs aren't great because the relatively thin diameter cord they use is much more likely to cause crushing tissue injury over the site of TQ application than the wide, flat nylon bands used by the CAT-T, SOFT-T, and similar. See here for more.
    I'm good with my choice because it's based on the recommendation of folks that have experience with HUNDREDS satisfactory uses on the battlefield.
    Last edited by 41magfan; 02-07-2019 at 04:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    If he said that, then he's thoroughly confused.

    As for receiving CoTCCC endorsement......well....it hasn't gotten that in the last ~15-some years of its existence.....

    "SoonTM"
    Upon further thought it may have been Rapier’s assistant instructor who made the comment about the ratcheting TQ receiving approval soon. Bill was carrying a ratcheting TQ and he definitely recommend it. His AI was a Philly LE and a Sayoc Kali practitioner like Rapier and they both appeared to be on the same page regarding the TQ. Both carried one. I also figure if a trainer has someone helping out during a class it isn’t going to be someone going off the reservation spouting stuff the primary trainer doesn’t agree with. We were were told of broken windless on both the CAT-T (Gen 7) and SOFT-T. I was quite surprised and questioned the breaking of a Metal windless on the SOFT-T but was told yes they have broken.

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    Slight drift. I was securing a load in my pickup using ratchet straps and it occurred to me that in a pinch, you could probably improvise a tourniquet using those things.
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    SAM XT Tourniquet?

    Anyone hear of the SAM XT Tourniquet? County Comm has 'em, that link goes there.

    They also have a Bleeding Control Kit By SAM Medical -- I ass-u-me that these are the makers of the SAM Splint.
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