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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Ran the K6i with GB4i reticle for the initial portion of a recent Green Ops carbine course. I've mostly used this at longer ranges (50-500 yards).

    The Green ops class was 50 and in, with most shooting being between 10 and 25 yards. Unlike other LPVO's I've used (Razor 1-6, Steiner PX4i, Trijicon acupoint
    VX-R Patrol) I was noticeably slower with the K6i at 1x and felt like I was getting sucked into the dot. Not sure if it's just my eyes ? It was suggested that the mini christmas tree in the GB4 reticle may draw the eye ?

    The other issue was the illumination knob was self adjusting when slung. At one point it self adjusted enough to turn itself off.
    Interesting, many think that the K6i outperforms the Razor on 1x, though I don’t know which reticle is preferred. How did your time on the Razor stack up?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Interesting, many think that the K6i outperforms the Razor on 1x, though I don’t know which reticle is preferred. How did your time on the Razor stack up?


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    I found the razor on 1x more “red dot ish”

    The image on the K6i is clear and flat but like I said - I get sucked into the dot for sone reason.

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    Don't know about "duty grade" relating to these but the price sure seems good.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1006751492

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020618935?pid=149367

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  4. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Don't know about "duty grade" relating to these but the price sure seems good.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1006751492

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020618935?pid=149367

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    Not sure how I managed to link to a Mini-14 stock.

    Let's try again:

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102061946?pid=587565

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Not sure how I managed to link to a Mini-14 stock.

    Let's try again:

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102061946?pid=587565

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    I'd pass on the CT scopes. I had the 1-5x version with that same reticle a while back. The FFP nature of the reticle made it terribly difficult to use on 1x. The illumination was not what I would call "daylight bright." After using at least 10 different LPVO scopes, I have decided that second focal plane reticles are what I vastly prefer in a LPVO.

    I do really like my Trijicon Credo 1-6x with the segmented circle BDC reticle however. I did NOT like the Credo 1-4x though.

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    Curious on the difference or why you liked the 1-6 but not the 1-4?

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    I think it was this thread a ways back, but I would never trust a Crimson Trace scope for duty. I bought a 1x4 as a test bed. It was DOA. I seriously thought I was doing something wrong. Sent it back and got a new one, same issue. After the second one was also bad I decided to just get a refund.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Not sure how I managed to link to a Mini-14 stock.

    Let's try again:

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102061946?pid=587565

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  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by TWR View Post
    Curious on the difference or why you liked the 1-6 but not the 1-4?
    I can’t answer for him, but I have both and like both credos. If money isn’t an issue, the 1-6 is better with very little increase in size and weight. I have the 1-6 in FFP, which is less forgiving at 1X, but provides a good reticle for ranging. It’s probably a little excessive for a patrol rifle, where a finer SFP reticle and simple, brighter dot illum would be desirable.

    I got the 1-4, which is only available as SFP (makes sense), with the milling reticle as well. The middle portion of the reticle illuminates, not just the center dot. This may be distracting if you like a simple dot on 1X.

    Both are brighter than my 1-8 ffp accupower and have excellent glads. Neither are super bright, but I’ve not run into a situation where they were inadequate.

    I purchased them because they had a combination of features not offered elsewhere (or for the price). Most 1-4s are derpplex reticles or bdc, neither of which are as useful as a milrad reticle. If they did have a mil reticle, they had exposed turrets. For the 1-6, the FFP option combined with the light weight and reticle sold me. I’ve used the 1-8 FFP with good success hunting, but it’s a pig. The 1-6 FFP comes in lighter than the vortex viper pst gen 2, with better reticle and better glass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TWR View Post
    Curious on the difference or why you liked the 1-6 but not the 1-4?
    The eyebox was much tighter on the 1-4x. I had them mounted in identical mounts on two rifles and compared back to back (both SFP). The 1-6x had a much better field of view as well. It was worth the extra expense and weight. I find that the illumination (at least on the segmented circle red reticle) is plenty bright enough. I can see it in full sunlight, and still see it when looking back towards a low angle sun. Since the entire circle and center dot light up, there is no need for "aimpoint bright" as the circle would wash out the sight picture. I liken the segmented circle to a LPVO "eo-tech" type sight picture.

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    Hmmm, I might have to try the 1-6. I have 2 of the 1-4 Accupowers both with the red segmented circle. The eye box is very generous but the illumination could stand to be a little better. If the 1-6 offers more than just more magnification, it’s gotta be quite a scope.

    Thanks for the reply.

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