You will more often be attacked for what others think you believe than what you actually believe. Expect misrepresentation, misunderstanding, and projection as the modern normal default setting. ~ Quintus Curtius
Our Tam did run a flawless 2k test of an old Ruger P-89.
I like seeing the cheap guns getting a run through the 2k wringer. Let's see if they can do the full monty.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
Posts like this are more interesting to me than someone letting us know their V9, Glock 19, M&P etc. made it through a 2K round test.
Not because Taurus is a serious option , but it’s something different. If I had plenty of money, I would do reviews of all the low end budget pistols I could find. It would be more of a fun thing vs a serious thing.
To state that anything from Taurus would have problems gaining any traction whatsoever from this forum is probably the understatement of 2019 (so far). I'd trust a SIG P320 before a Taurus, and I've banned the P320s from duty use...
Best, Jon
As I've yammered/blogged about about before on p-f, the venerable P89 is actually a quite good pistol in its own right. Tam was a bit more critical about its ergos than I am, but her end results speak volumes, and concur with mine. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....onal-Ruger-P89
If you can find a P89 in semi-decent shape (and they seem to come in about 2 varieties for resale: Quite nice and seemingly dragged behind Bubba's pick-em-up on a gravel road), I'd jump on it if you want a quality DA/SA.
Best, Jon
Last edited by JonInWA; 01-15-2019 at 05:26 PM.
I have to ask what the point is of a 2000 round test. Assuming for the moment the pistol made it to even 1500 rounds intact, all you’ve proven is that exact gun worked OK. With Taurus’ QC,reliability will be a case by case basis. Whether your example passes or fails doesn’t change the fact Taurus products are options of last resort, and in the case of their revolvers not even then.
The Minority Marksman.
"When you meet a swordsman, draw your sword: Do not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
-a Ch'an Buddhist axiom.
If you can afford it, shooting the crap out of crap guns is a worthy research goal. The usual rejoinder of the fans of the derp tier to criticism is that one is just a gun snob.
Having actual honest scientific data from a 2k test to show them wrong is a good thing.
But on the gripping hand, most fans of derpy gear aren't ever really convinced by things like "data".
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
Props on "gripping hand"
I know too many people at work enamored with SCCYs and Taurus and other low-end pistols. Yeah, I had a Taurus once; I bought it because I had little money (fresh out of college, no shooting background beyond BB guns) and really didn't know any better at the time. And torture-testing some would be fun too, if I had unlimited funds.
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