Democratic Presidential Nominee 2020 Thread

[Joe in PNG]

Hillary says she's not running, and for once, I believe her.
For one, if she was, there wouldn't be a whole lot of other candidates. Just Bernie.
Plus, she burned up all her political capital in 2016.

[the Schwartz]

Hillary says she's not running, and for once, I believe her.
For one, if she was, there wouldn't be a whole lot of other candidates. Just Bernie.
Plus, she burned up all her political capital in 2016.

Unfortunately, there are others ready to 'replace' her and they are―to a person―just as bad or worse than she.

[blues]

Unfortunately, there are others ready to 'replace' her and they are―to a person―just as bad or worse than she.

Hillary, Dillary, Dock

The Dems are filled with schlock

Ocasio's one,

Bernie's no fun,

Hillary, Dillary, Dock.

[Kyle Reese]

Maybe the GOP can run a Bill Weld / Mitt Romney ticket.....

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[GOTURBACK]

Trump will rise and fall depending on if he can keep some of the folks who switched to him. His big mouth and immature behavior will act against him, esp. if some of the economic promises don't materalized. The decision of certain states to declare that their electoral vote will go 100% with the national popular vote!
I have a much better idea, we need to enact affirmative action into our voting, for instance using voter registration data we could determine what percentage of the constituents are democrat or republican and also what party holds a.majority of elected.officials in each area to make the vote fair and balanced! Lets take NYC and the five boroughs as an example for instance; 85% of elected officials across the spectrum are democrats, and the constituency is also 85% democratic to make it fair and balanced the republican candidate would only need 16% of the vote to win the election! That is truly fair and balanced! The data #'s are estimated but you get the idea.If it is true that tax returns for average folks are falling, his vaunted tax bill will be a liability. If the tariff war hurts farmers, that will be bad for him.

If nothing positive is done for gun rights, the hold your nose and vote for Trump for gun rights slice of the electorate might wander away. If there is a negative gun rights decision at SCOTUS - which is quite probable with Roberts, then All Hail Kavanaugh will only work for the abortion debate crowd.

The ranting about socialist waves is just a slogan for his base turn out, won't impact the rest of the electorate.

The GOP would be smart to convince him to not run and get a normal conservative type (Haley for instance). He will run as it is all about him.

Glen I wanted to respond to the bolded part, all I can say is for almost exactly the same adjusted gross income on our 2017 returns our federal tax burden is $1000
less for 2018 therefore I would say Trumps tax cuts are positively effecting the middle class.

[Nephrology]

Glen I wanted to respond to the bolded part, all I can say is for almost exactly the same adjusted gross income on our 2017 returns our federal tax burden is $1000
less for 2018 therefore I would say Trumps tax cuts are positively effecting the middle class.

I went from getting a healthy return to owing a small amount.

[blues]

I got back about a grand more than expected but it all comes down to estimating (correctly) what your liability will be. I usually up my withholding annually if there's a tax change, or more dividends, Roth conversions are anticipated.

[Gray01]

If it is true that tax returns for average folks are falling, his vaunted tax bill will be a liability.

It is not true: New data from the IRS, released on Thursday, showed that the size of the average tax refund issued has not only caught up to 2018 but also surpassed it.

The average tax refund through the first four weeks of the tax season was $3,143, according to the data, up 1.3% from the $3,103 average refund over the same time period in 2018.

[Randy Harris]

The people that got MORE money all year long in their paychecks because the IRS gave incorrect guidelines on withholding amounts are shocked that they are not getting back what they thought they would get back. They got it, they just got it during the year instead of this spring. They apparently thought they got a raise with that extra money in their checks each pay period and it would not have any effect on their returns. So the people who every year give the US Govt an interest free loan expecting to be paid back in the 1st quarter of the next year in a lump sum payment (tax refund) suddenly are realizing that with the tax rates changing they essentially were getting “loan payments” back from the govt along the way in their checks throughout the year so there was no lump sum payment 1st quarter of 2019.

Just because you did not get a refund as big as you thought does not necessarily mean the tax cut didn’t help your overall situation ......as likely as not it simply means you didn’t properly manage your withholding on your checks during the year. You are probably not going to get both extra money on your checks AND a big fat tax refund too.....

[the Schwartz]

That! Is! Awesome!

Hillary, Dillary, Dock

The Dems are filled with schlock

Ocasio's one,

Bernie's no fun,

Hillary, Dillary, Dock.