For years we would usually shoot at an indoor range, slow fire of course, at 3 inch dots at 30 feet. That seemed to be a bit of a challenge since it was pretty rare that all 10 of our rounds hit. (We find it easy to load 10 rnds per mag and switch off shooting vs loading) Maybe only off by an inch or two, but not a hit either. So spring of 2017 I started local competition and my wife has even tried a couple of Steel Challenges. I found I could get a lot of practice drawing and making that first DA shot in the basement w/ a CO2 BB replica Beretta 92. 3 inch dots or paper plates at 20 feet. 3 inch dots are tough for me. But paper plates I was feeling reasonable w/ hits in the 1.2 to 1.4 second range. That probably gives you an idea of my skill level. Today it was 50 deg so I went to the outdoor range and practiced at 30 ft but only had the 3 inch dots w/ me. Kind of disappointed but tried to make myself feel better because most would have been hits on a paper plate. So my question is what do you guys use as a standard practice setup? I see GJM shooting at 8 in plates I 'think' at 15 yds. That is probably way beyond me. Also I don't have easy access to steel plates.Paper plates in 8 or 9 inch are easy for me to use where we shoot, so what is an appropriate distance?