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    Todd Jarrett teach the trigger slap as far as I know. I think this works with an highly tuned Para USA or any other single action system.
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    Let's keep this thread on track and focused, please.

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    OK...since I helped derail, I will help get it back on track.

    Not having handled a G4 yet, has anyone found the interchangeable backstraps to be a benefit for those of us with stubby fingers? It doesn't look like they did much to slim it down...looks more like a benefit for those with bigger hands.

    I know ToddG is proportioned more like me, so it will be interesting to get his feedback on that aspect of this year's gun after he gets some rounds through it.

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    Last friday at IWA/Nuernberg (Gun/Outdoor Show) I had the chance to finger f..k a Gen4 at the Glock booth. I had a nice chat with one of their representatives and he told me the following:
    Gen 4 without a backstrap : distance from grip end to the trigger is around 0,118 inch shorter

    Gen 4 with the medium strap is similar to the Gen 3

    According to this, it could maybe benefit your grip.
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    On Todd G's ability with previous firearms and the current one, I think we have to realize that he is shooting 50,000-100,000 rounds a year (give or take a few thousand). He is going to improve every year I think. The mechanics may effect him somewhat, but let's be honest, can you tell the difference between a 4.10 FAST versus a 4.60 FAST? In competition we all can because we watch it on replays, but in real life, I think I would have a hard time telling which one he is faster with if there was no timer present. I would also venture to guess that how he feels (mentally and physically) play a larger role in how he performs on any given drill.

    I knew a firearm instructor that once told me that he could shoot anything well. I gave him a SIG P210-5 (the competition variant) and he was pretty good, put holes all over the paper (like a shotgun). I don't think Todd (or a lot of other guys on this forum) are like that.

    However, I do think Todd will improve his times on all the various drills because he is simply getting better each year (if the Glock can keep running that is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank B View Post
    Last friday at IWA/Nuernberg (Gun/Outdoor Show) I had the chance to finger f..k a Gen4 at the Glock booth. I had a nice chat with one of their representatives and he told me the following:
    Gen 4 without a backstrap : distance from grip end to the trigger is around 0,118 inch shorter

    Gen 4 with the medium strap is similar to the Gen 3

    According to this, it could maybe benefit your grip.
    I believe I've heard that Glock specifies Gen4 with no backstrap as being -2mm in size.

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    I called it!

    I said either a Glock 19 or 17 Gen 4. (Frankly... it was kind of obvious, HK doesn't have a new pistol out yet. S&W doesn't either, and the Glock's... Gen 4's are bobbling... they've changed the system, they've pointed the finger at shooters, they've pointed the finger at the springs, they've changed the design... Gen 3 9mm's are great, I think Gen 4's .40 S&W from what I hear are great, but frankly, I think they need two different spring systems, I don't know if they changed them or not yet, but, anyway, we shall see.)

    What I didn't predict was him paying for it out of pocket.

    Frankly, I think this test *needs* to be done.

    I like that he bought it out of a local gun store instead of them selecting the pistol they wanted to send him.

    I intently wait for his review on the Ameri-glo I-Dots, between Warren's, Heinie's and Ameri-Glo's, there are some great sights out there for 2-dot sights.

    Thanks for doing this Todd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWT View Post
    I called it!

    I said either a Glock 19 or 17 Gen 4.
    Yes but I called it with mind-numbing, earth-shattering, pulse-quickening, Charlie Sheen-like accuracy. Behold my greatness:

    http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...ull=1#post2424

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    I think the gun will self destruct in the case, before Todd even gets it to the range. I think shortly after Todd will develop rickets and become a piano teacher for the blind.


    nah, but I am waiting for an estimate on how many rounds Todd intends to throw through this beast. 100,000k in 10 months would be awesome.
    ...and to think today you just have fangs

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    Yes but I called it with mind-numbing, earth-shattering, pulse-quickening, Charlie Sheen-like accuracy. Behold my greatness:

    http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...ull=1#post2424


    He's just scurred of the good ol' 19-elemum and veherenable .45 Ace-See-Pee.

    Cain't get mech behter 'ahn that grip angul and trigger that breaks lahk a glass rawd.

    (<-- 1911 owner and Southerner, before the sand starts flying)

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