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    Interesting,

    I have never heard the fire concern for a maintained outdoor range, but I suppose it is possible. I know it is of concern on the national forest ranges and public lands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSGlock34 View Post
    I understand they recently had to (very prematurely) replace some backstops that had been shot with steel core ammunition; I suspect they are trying to simplify things for the range officers by using a magnet to exclude ammunition.

    This is not an uncommon practice at indoor ranges, but still disappointing. I've been shooting Wolf ammunition at the NRA Range for nearly 10 years. Unfortunately I have nearly 2,000 rounds of Wolf 7.62x39mm that is of little utility to me now...
    I too suspect a failure to detect and prevent steel-core ammo being used is the primary reason. Wonder if this restriction is going to be permanent. I'm told SEG in Ashburn put the same restriction in place a few years ago, but range members objected loudly enough that they dropped it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatdog View Post
    Interesting,

    I have never heard the fire concern for a maintained outdoor range, but I suppose it is possible. I know it is of concern on the national forest ranges and public lands.
    I may be misremembering. They tend to be reactionary, arbitrary, and inconsistent with their rules so a RO saying "it's because of fires" seems to stick in my head.

    Chris

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    Range flash fire? Forward to about 1:20.

    https://www.firefightingnews.com/exp...ght-on-camera/

    I agree that the magnet test for steel core ammo is likely the reason and steel jacket will fail the test.

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    Isn’t that how shooters paradise on rt. 1 in Woodbridge burn down?


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Cid View Post
    Range flash fire? Forward to about 1:20.

    https://www.firefightingnews.com/exp...ght-on-camera/

    I agree that the magnet test for steel core ammo is likely the reason and steel jacket will fail the test.
    Just a note- the range in that video is in Brazil. While flash and un burned powder started the fire the use of highly flammable egg crate foam for sound mitigation made it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richiecotite View Post
    Isn’t that how shooters paradise on rt. 1 in Woodbridge burn down?


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    A range near Love Field in Dallas burned down a few years ago due to unburned powder and steel jacketed ammo. As I recall they had a steel backstop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richiecotite View Post
    Isn’t that how shooters paradise on rt. 1 in Woodbridge burn down?
    I shoot at Sharpshooters (it's about three or four miles from my house). Before they knew me, they'd check my ammo with a magnet when I came in. They told me it was because of the fire at Shooters Paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatdog View Post
    Interesting,

    I have never heard the fire concern for a maintained outdoor range, but I suppose it is possible. I know it is of concern on the national forest ranges and public lands.
    @Chuck Haggard can tell you about fires on outdoor ranges,
    Last edited by HCM; 01-01-2019 at 06:44 PM.

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    I received an email reply from the NRA HQ Indoor Range Manager today regarding questions I posed concerning this new ammo policy on steel-jacketed projectiles. Here's the meat:

    - Policy was put in place due to continued use of steel-core.

    - Said steel-core was sometimes used unknowingly and sometimes deceptively.

    - Backstop damage in the tens of thousands of dollars since 2016.

    - Policy likely to be permanent.

    - Range regulations and Ammo FAQ being updated to reflect new policy.

    - Now stocking acceptable 7.62 x 39 and 7.62 x 54R for sale.

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