@jetfire I don't think those agencies were DAO because it's necessarily better, they were DAO because of liability reasons. One famous LAPD shooting had the Sgt thumb cock his 4506 for a hostage shot.
I personally like Denny Reichard's idea that the single action is a nice option to have for a distance shot. I get what you're saying about double action being better for fast close work.
Don't forget that old time revolver shooting experts like Ed McGivern and John Fitzgerald were exhibiting, writing about, and teaching double action shooting back in the 20's and 30's- not to mention Bill Jordan and others later on.Originally Posted by Dave Williams
From what I've read, it would appear that DAO would have been the preferred means for the more 'switched on' shooters and trainers.
It may even be possible that they pushed the liability thing as a reason to get rid of the SA crutch in service revolvers- pure speculation on my part.
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In the book “No Second Place Winner,” Bill Jordan lists the ability to cock the revolver for long distance shots of 200 yards as an advantage. In fairness, if I recall correctly, he also discussed removing the hammer spur in some circumstances.
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First, I had one of the supposed "GIGN" S&W 586 over-runs. I wasn't impressed enough to keep it.
Second, when I went to the academy in 1973 they were still teaching single action fire for 25 and 50 yards (PPC revolver course). Almost 9 years later I got my job as the department's chief firearms instructor because of two instances where deputies had accidental discharges after cocking their revolvers. One shot a car trying to lower the hammer. The other one shot a suspect he was trying to handcuff. Both resulted in law suits the county paid for.
For the 40% of our department still carrying revolvers I taught strictly DA fire and that shooting Magnum ammunition.
Dave
This thread has taken a turn for the weird. I mean, with regard to wheel guns and best practices, it’s 2021, not 1971.
Smooth, long, front sight. Repeat.
JMO.
Signed, spurless in spokane.
”But in the end all of these ideas just manufacture new criminals when the problem isn't a lack of criminals.” -JRB
It’s 2021 indeed. Front sight is a crutch for them that can’t handle collimating optics.
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Totem,
Did you miss the part about, "...I taught strictly DA fire..." That was in the early 1980s.
Sorry but you don't know anything about DA revolver shooting that hasn't been known and practiced for a long time.
Dave
Ease up on the hammers, Tex. I’m referring to the thread as a whole, and the debate, not you personally.
”But in the end all of these ideas just manufacture new criminals when the problem isn't a lack of criminals.” -JRB
I’m going top a gun range/restaurant called DAO Tortas.
Real Mexican food and only DAO shooting allowed.
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