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Thread: New Glocks prior to SHOT -- G43X, G48, and G44?

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    I hope you are right about the SCOTUS, Glenn. I really do.

    I don't think we should debate whether 10+1 is enough, but here are my thoughts: Everyone should make their own decision about the appropriate defensive solution. Most of the time, I carry 15+1, without a reload. Sometimes I carry 6+1 with a reload. And sometimes I carry 17+1 with two reloads. --All based on risk assessment and what I'm able to conceal and carry comfortably.

    A couple of years ago I was carrying a G43 with a reload, and three carloads of tweakers arrived at my family's backcountry picnic site and blocked our vehicle while they searched for their lost "stuff". I spent a few very tense minutes with my hand under my jacket telling them to leave. It did occur to me that I might not be sufficiently armed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    Could be but there is a market for guns that are easier to conceal. Should we start a debate on whether 10+1 is enough? With an extra mag, seems that is a reasonable carry load?

    As far as a new AWB - don't worry. Kavanaugh will stop the socialist wave. I read that in some magazine (sorry). I have added two politically correct long arms lately.

    That's off topic though. I mentioned elsewhere that I'm torn as I have a 26, 19 and 17. The 19 needs some new sights (or I need new eyes). However, I carry the 26 most of the time and shoot the 17 at matches. Do I ditch the 19 for one of the new guys. Does it get me much over the 26 that I shoot decently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    AWB and 10 round mags are the reality for several states regardless of what happens at the federal level.
    Living it is rough. Albeit this new 48 has gotten my attention for sure, it fills a role that other platforms couldn't do for me was well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I hope you are right about the SCOTUS, Glenn. I really do.

    I don't think we should debate whether 10+1 is enough, but here are my thoughts: Everyone should make their own decision about the appropriate defensive solution. Most of the time, I carry 15+1, without a reload. Sometimes I carry 6+1 with a reload. And sometimes I carry 17+1 with two reloads. --All based on risk assessment and what I'm able to conceal and carry comfortably.

    A couple of years ago I was carrying a G43 with a reload, and three carloads of tweakers arrived at my family's backcountry picnic site and blocked our vehicle while they searched for their lost "stuff". I spent a few very tense minutes with my hand under my jacket telling them to leave. It did occur to me that I might not be sufficiently armed.
    Jeff Cooper’s solution, back in the days of revolvers and single stack 1911 pistols, was to shoot the leader to effect an attitude change with the followers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    I think a better strategy would go full tilt boogie towards trying to get Joe and Suzie homemaker who own zero guns to buy their first gun, rather than trying to sell gun #31 to the person who already has 30 at home.
    I know a lot of casual gun owners, conservative minded non-gun types who have their one or two because they think it might be useful and they support the 2A. With the growth of CCW (a practical reason for a non-hunting urbanite who is not generally interested in guns, to own a gun) in the last few decades, part of me thinks that we might be getting to the point where a lot of the non-gun owning public at this point have significant mental, social and experiential barriers to buying a first gun. Even if they do choose to buy a gun, many will buy one in a way hard to target by manufacturer. Whereas I fully expect to own dozens or scores more before I shuffle off my mortal coil. Targeting those who already have a lot of guns might be a good long term move. If you sell me a bolt rifle, I really don't need a lot, I already own a reloading press, slings, safes, etc. My barrier is largely the cost of a gun and perhaps an optic and a mess of magazines in an autoloading pistol. First gun owner needs to afford the gun...and mags, gun rugs, range bags, eyes & ears, ammo, cleaning gear, storage options, holsters, etc. Not that many first time owners think that through, I will admit that many just jump in. However, as we get down to first time owners with reservations about guns they might be more likely to think through additional gear and issues. We shall see, even if their logic is ultimately wrong, there does seem to be logic to targeting gun nerds vs. first time owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    Jeff Cooper’s solution, back in the days of revolvers and single stack 1911 pistols, was to shoot the leader to effect an attitude change with the followers.
    I am so glad I didn’t have to do that. Fortunately there were no visible weapons or preattack indicators. Some LEO friends told me that the “I lost my drugs” scenario can go bad really quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    I am so glad I didn’t have to do that. Fortunately there were no visible weapons or preattack indicators. Some LEO friends told me that the “I lost my drugs” scenario can go bad really quickly.
    There have been a number of times in Alaska in Africa that I have been faced with an animal that could ruin my day, and in each instance I have always thought “I wish I had a bigger gun that held more cartridges!”
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    Does anybody else's OCD get bothered by not knowing what the Glock 44, 46, and 47 are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemsoldier View Post
    I know a lot of casual gun owners, conservative minded non-gun types who have their one or two because they think it might be useful and they support the 2A. With the growth of CCW (a practical reason for a non-hunting urbanite who is not generally interested in guns, to own a gun) in the last few decades, part of me thinks that we might be getting to the point where a lot of the non-gun owning public at this point have significant mental, social and experiential barriers to buying a first gun.
    I agree with this. I think we on the pro-gun side underestimate how much certain things are "in the water," even for people who might be open to purchasing a firearm.

    "Oh, goodness, 15 rounds. That just seems like overkill. I'm not trying to cause trouble, I just want to defend myself against a mugger. 10 is plenty."

    "Wow, that black gun looks like a cop's gun... And it's the same color as the assault rifles in those mass shootings. But that silver one looks like a good, civilian gun."

    I'm not saying these arguments are right, and we could all rebut them. I'm not even saying the type of person I'm thinking of would verbalize these arguments. But they're probably baked in, to some degree, and affects buying choices.

    Historically Glock has tried to sell additional firearms to existing customers. "Have a 19? Buy a 26, and you can use the same 15 round magazines in it. Want to compete? Buy a 34, and all the controls are in the same place and the grip feels the same." Now, Glock is going after customers who aren't already gun owners (and who therefore don't care about magazine compatibility and the like).
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    It appears the 43 should fit the 48 lower. Couple videos mention that the 43x and 43 slide, recoil spring, and barrel are identical, so looks like if you own a 43, the 48 is a no brainier. For those of us who have a 43, it appears with a 48, we'll have the 43x option with the 48 lower, minus the FS and color. I'm in for the 48 as soon as they have pricing for a GSSF coupon.

    Looks like the pricing is $358 blue label and $449 for regular. Ameriglo bold version for BL is $431. That's fantastic pricing. It also seems that the SCD will likely be compatible but we'll have to wait until Tom gets a couple to test.

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